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American Patriot missile crashes into residential areas in Qatar; 4 people injured as initial toll
Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds
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Immortals
Elite Member
I am not that oracle
You literally have their logo as your avatar
Blain2
THINK TANK: CONSULTANT
I say put the entire onus/blame on Pakistan's insistence and prodding if it gives the two sides an off-ramp. I sincerely hope the two sides take the off-ramp and not let the Zionist bastards derail it yet again.
mangekyo
Trusted Member
It doesn’t matter who is brokering the ceasefire. 7 parties, 31 countries negotiated the JCPOA and it took only one country to break the agreement. Israel never honored a ceasefire before. Its not going to be different this time. Why would it be different this time?
kobra
Registered Member
Its not about patience. its about upcoming loses and suffering of normal civilians. Do you argue that one side can deliver much much more pain on the other and there is huge imbalance of strength.
Daily salvos of 10-12 missiles did not prove painful enough for israil to stop hitting civilians. otherwise these rats are most cowardly crying bunch. if they were receiving unbearable pain, they would have stopped already.
clutch
Elite Member
I suspect America will still attack. Just like last time. Negotiations are a ruse.
The real power is Israel and they are calling the shots.
NuttyYahoo knows this is it. He needs this war to continue.
Do NOT listen to Trump. Ignore Pakistan (They are the Oman of this phase)... See what IsraHell is saying. They are the ones who have the Epstein Blackmail on Trumpy.
unconventional
Registered Member
I can assure all the Iranian posters here that if Pakistan was confident Iran could offer knockout blows to Israel and the US, it would not have offered any such ceasefire proposals.
But while Iran has caused some damage to Israel and US bases in the region, it has caused significantly more damage to the GCC countries, who are quite important to the Pakistani economy as well.
Yet, Pakistan abstained in the UAE resolution on the SOH, and has been trying to convince the Saudis to resolve issues with Iran peacefully (instead of triggering the defence pact).
Pakistan has a deep seated interest that the IRI regime stays in power. Any terms Pakistan will present as options will always keep the IRI regime in power, as well as maintain their military programs.
But while Iran has caused some damage to Israel and US bases in the region, it has caused significantly more damage to the GCC countries, who are quite important to the Pakistani economy as well.
Yet, Pakistan abstained in the UAE resolution on the SOH, and has been trying to convince the Saudis to resolve issues with Iran peacefully (instead of triggering the defence pact).
Pakistan has a deep seated interest that the IRI regime stays in power. Any terms Pakistan will present as options will always keep the IRI regime in power, as well as maintain their military programs.
Blain2
THINK TANK: CONSULTANT
Voting yes or no was going to put Pakistan's entire peacemaking effort into jeopardy. Abstention was the only path available to Pakistan to continue offering its good offices for peace.
Blain2
THINK TANK: CONSULTANT
Let's see which way this goes. Perhaps Iran will take the hits and absorb them. All possible.
Falcon29
Elite Member
2 weeks = USA gonna replenish Israeli supply of munitions and Israel gets a break from Lebanese and Iranian front
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For Iran = US pulls back some demands and puts forth new proposal. Trump appears less humiliated so he can calm down and say he won war even if demands aren't met
Iran can dig up few missiles and reposition some stuff to allow for 20-30 missile barrage on Israel on day 1 of resumed war but after that goes back to normal
Chances are this leads to permanent ceasefire. However it resets Trump 60 days, allows him to go to war from get go again. Gives time for Pentagon to draft new strike options
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For Iran = US pulls back some demands and puts forth new proposal. Trump appears less humiliated so he can calm down and say he won war even if demands aren't met
Iran can dig up few missiles and reposition some stuff to allow for 20-30 missile barrage on Israel on day 1 of resumed war but after that goes back to normal
Chances are this leads to permanent ceasefire. However it resets Trump 60 days, allows him to go to war from get go again. Gives time for Pentagon to draft new strike options
ShapurII
Trusted Member
Pakistan abstained because her vote didn't matter at all.
The US already had 11 votes, and it was up to China or Russia to veto it or the resolution would've been passed.
The UN Security Council consists of 15 members: 5 permanent members with the veto right and 10 temporary/rotating members. For a resolution to be passed, 9 out of 15 members should vote yes with no vetoes from the permanent members.
