Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Blain2]

What a ridiculous proposal by the Pakistanis.
Total surrender and annihilation of Iran ? .

Shamefull .

My friend, let's see what proposal Jamaica has put up!

 

[Starlord]

It was stupid, but she did what she has to protect her country and people, yes Trump snatch Maduro anyway but that save her country from total destruction and blockade.

 

[kobra]

Full scale meltdown of some of our emotional neighbors have started...............

 

[Immortals]

 

[RescueRanger]

It’s true Pakistan is humiliating itself. Distance yourself. Let them figure it out themselves.

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[PakSword]

Guys, Americans are behaving like rabid dogs at the moment. You must live for another day rather than come directly in the line of sight of the dogs.

Don't get your women and children killed by the rabid dogs. If you think your regime will survive after the ceasefire, go for it.

Allah Kareem

 

[Starlord]

Walmart delivers.

Nah they charge extra for that, Its literally 5 mins drive from my apartment, plus they sometimes have good shit in Clearance section. But God damn it can we have peace so i can buy groceries? I will buy myself a ice cream to celebrate the ceasefire.

 

[Bilal]

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By God if only it could be done

 

[Blain2]

yeah.. a right response from a mediator.

Like, the Corp Commander Conference statement says, without naming anybody, that attacks on KSA should be stopped. Similarly, we said before that attacks on Iran should stop (no names).

Perfectly fine response by Pakistan in the prevailing environment.

You carry on nitpicking aka missing the forest for the trees. ;-)

 

[r3alist]

Are you the representative of Iran? What right do you have to claim that ultimately Iran wants to come to the negotiating table?

And yes, a ceasefire in Iran's case means a surrender. It will also reset Trump's 60-day privilege to declare war without congressional approval.

Yes the Iranians do, they would want to negotiate the amount of reparations and compensation they are due assuming this plays out as they hope, this is from iran's own statements


So that is coming to the table but as victors imposing terms to The losers.


It ultimately depends now how you imagine this to come about, and how realistic that is

 

[Immortals]

It was stupid, but she did what she has to protect her country and people, yes Trump snatch Maduro anyway but that save her country from total destruction and blockade.

Machado hated Maduro and wanted to be president. What are you talking about? She was like Reza Pahlavi begging Trump to bomb her country and loot it.

Even now she wants to go back to run against Delcy and the Trump admin doesn’t want that.

L

 

[Prophecy]

No, but both Pakistan and India were looking for off-ramp before things got really destructive. This is what Pakistan is advising both sides.

For some odd reason, the entire chagrin is at Pakistan very unfairly. I can guarantee, sometime down the road, Pakistan will be lamenting and reminding "See, we told you all".

Hi I am new here. Been following this thread as a guest, made an account because I have real difficulty in understanding Pakistan proposed ceasefire. It is completely one sided in favour of Israel/America. Tantamount to capitulation of Iran and deliberate back stabbing by Pakistan ( I will explain in abit as I present my argument)

1) Strait of Hormuz.
That is the biggest Iranian leverage. Even opening up strait of Hormuz for a few days will..
A) Allow all the tankers stranded there to move out.
B) Also will cause rapid emptying of oil storage capacities. Filling up of storage in the current situation will lead to drastic cut down in oil production which takes a much longer time to recover.
C) Will drastically bring oil prices down.

2) Will allow Israel and America time to accumulate more interceptors which Iran is so much trying to deplete, increasing its chances of hitting targets.

3) Will give the aggressors time for maintenance of its aircraft which has seen significant sorties.

4) Can allow them to gather forces uninterrupted without any risk and give them time to more comprehensively plan.

5) Break the momentum of Iranian people and give aggressors time to sell it domestically, a front at which which they are facing significant blowback.

Now coming to why I said BACKSTAB.

1) It shifts the blame/impression on solely Iran that it rejected even a supposed friendly country proposal while America accepts it (there is no reason why they won't as it is completely one sided) , while alleviating trump of backlash globally (especially his ratings and support among Americans).
At the same time portraying Iran as warmongering and against peace).

Completely shifting the narrative of war and providing trump an allaby to go harder in a couple of weeks.

THEY ARE GOING TO TRY TO DESTROY IRAN INFRA-STRUCTURE ANYWAY AFTER 2 WEEKS WITH MUCH LESS CONSEQUENCES THAN NOW.
WE ALL KNOW THIS.

If Pakistani system actually cares about Iran as is it trying to sell it is, if
1) Comprehensive end of hostilities not a ceasefire with guarantees.
2) Not insisting on opening of strait of Hormuz and rather developing a consensus with Saudi and Qatar after the end of hostilities to develop a joint plan with Iran and Oman.
3) Work towards a new security arrangement in middle east and try to bridge differences.

Without any of this. It just reeks of back stabbing, apart of plan to put down Iran softly without noise.

 

[Starlord]

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I think between Australia and NZ will be a good place to be or we can place Pakistan next to Norway.

 

[Immortals]

 

[TallarnDesertRaider]

It was stupid, but she did what she has to protect her country and people, yes Trump snatch Maduro anyway but that save her country from total destruction and blockade.

You're thinking of Delcy Rodriguez, Machado had nothing to do with anything that happened in Venezuela