Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Here is my take on the Iran-USA ceasefire and upcoming negotiations. First and foremost, congratulations to the Pakistani leadership on achieving this victory not just for Pakistan but for the entire world. Secondly, now starts the hard part of having talks in a safe, civilized, and fruitful manner, and making sure that it leads to a long-term peace deal. Now let's discuss a scenario. Let's see the USA and Iran reach a deal, and in that deal, Iran gets the USA to agree to most of its terms, as the USA won't agree to all. This deal would have far-reaching consequences. First and foremost, we can predict that this would be the start of the collapse of the USA as a military and economic power. Iran would be a regional hegemon, and if it ends up controlling Hormuz, which means it would make Middle Eastern countries furious, which could really harm Pakistan's relations with those countries. China would be a great benefactor, but if it wants to hold on, then it should drop the fear of using force or starting a war; otherwise, it won't be beneficial for China in the long run. Europe would go back to the old days of having really large military forces to keep Russia at bay. Pakistan's role on the global stage will rise, but until we resolve our local political and economic issues, it won't last long. All major powers that lack nuclear weapons need to go nuclear if they want to remain independent and safe. Pakistan needs to go for more nukes, develop ICBMs and SLBMs, induct SSBNs, and other military equipment that gives it offensive firepower and capability to strike anywhere in the world. The creation of the new world order begins.
 
Few things.

Everyone has congratulated Pakistan, even Kuwait. UAE has been silent.

Pak Mil and ISI have less then 24 hours to assure safety of Iranian delegation. Make no mistake, Israel, India, UAE and some in the US want Islamabad talks to fail.

Next 48 hours os going to be VITAL
 
Latest News:

1. According to Iranian media, due to Israeli attacks on Beirut and other locations, Iran is considering launching strikes against Israel.

2. According to Iranian media, if Israel does not stop its attacks on Lebanon, Iran will withdraw from the ceasefire.

3. The Prime Minister of Pakistan posted that in conflict zones, there have been isolated incidents of ceasefire violations, undermining the peace process. "I sincerely and solemnly urge all parties to exercise restraint, adhere to the two-week ceasefire agreement reached, and let diplomacy promote a peaceful resolution to the conflict."

4. After Israel attacked Lebanon, the passage of oil tankers through the Strait of Hormuz has been interrupted.
 
Blain2 said:
Why blame the peacemaker? I am baffled by your posts. As I said before, let's see Jamaica's peace proposal.

Holding the ceasefire will not be easy given the scale of his conflict. This is akin to WWII with fighting going on multiple fronts across the entire Middle East region.
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Ceasefire ?
1000 Lebanese dead just today .
Nice ceasefire .
Peacemaker ? Don't make me laugh .
What peace . I see none .

We might be an island of 2 million population and have no say in any world affairs but we fought for our freedom and got rid of colonisation unlike some , and know at first hand the trickery of certain nations in world affairs .
 


(Google Translate from Persian)

Oil tankers suspended from passing through the Strait of Hormuz after Israeli attack on Lebanon

*Along with the Israeli attacks on Lebanon, oil tankers have been suspended from passing through the Strait of Hormuz.

*This morning, after Trump accepted Iran's terms and a ceasefire was formed, two oil tankers were able to safely pass through the Strait of Hormuz with permission from Iran.
 
hasssanali8998 said:
bhai no one can stop us if the sanctions are lifted which most probably will be as it is in of the main iranian condition
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Sanctions can be put back sometime in future, what I am referring to is sovereign guarantees, a sort of exceptionalism, for us and us alone, which will last generations. If we are running around for these peace talks, there should be some benefit for us.
 
WildApache said:
Ceasefire ?
1000 Lebanese dead just today .
Nice ceasefire .
Peacemaker ? Don't make me laugh .
What peace . I see none .

We might be an island of 2 million population and have no say in any world affairs but we fought for our freedom and got rid of colonisation unlike some , and know at first hand the trickery of certain nations in world affairs .
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So how is ANY of above Pakistan's fault?

It would be beneficial if members think and post logically instead of these emotional outbursts.
 
东风夜放花千树 said:
Latest News:

1. According to Iranian media, due to Israeli attacks on Beirut and other locations, Iran is considering launching strikes against Israel.

2. According to Iranian media, if Israel does not stop its attacks on Lebanon, Iran will withdraw from the ceasefire.

3. The Prime Minister of Pakistan posted that in conflict zones, there have been isolated incidents of ceasefire violations, undermining the peace process. "I sincerely and solemnly urge all parties to exercise restraint, adhere to the two-week ceasefire agreement reached, and let diplomacy promote a peaceful resolution to the conflict."

4. After Israel attacked Lebanon, the passage of oil tankers through the Strait of Hormuz has been interrupted.
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Iran knows his new power, and they are using it.

Trump can be seen now like the little bitch of Iran.
 
WildApache said:
Ceasefire ?
1000 Lebanese dead just today .
Nice ceasefire .
Peacemaker ? Don't make me laugh .
What peace . I see none .

We might be an island of 2 million population and have no say in any world affairs but we fought for our freedom and got rid of colonisation unlike some , and know at first hand the trickery of certain nations in world affairs .
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You also have no say in the world. Secondly, these things take time. So let the big boys talk it out.
 
Yasser76 said:
Few things.

Everyone has congratulated Pakistan, even Kuwait. UAE has been silent.

Pak Mil and ISI have less then 24 hours to assure safety of Iranian delegation. Make no mistake, Israel, India, UAE and some in the US want Islamabad talks to fail.

Next 48 hours os going to be VITAL
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isi gotta keep raw in bay during these hours and more importantly Mossad
 
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