Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Falcon29]

On one hand Iran trying to make Lebanon is admirable but a big task.

Because its too close to Israel and Israel won't stop attacking it

 

[东风夜放花千树]

This ceasefire wont last and there won’t be peace Rogue Israeli will continue striking Lebanon, Iran cannot abandon its ally. Not confident Islamabad can stop this.

Any positive action to stop war and maintain peace deserves respect and support.

Pakistan has merely tried to provide an opportunity for peace, and the choice lies with the Epstein coalition or Iran.

We Chinese have a saying: If you do not respect the face given, then no one will give it again in the future.

If Pakistan's efforts fail, which other country would be suitable to seek a chance for peace?

 

[Persian Gulf]

Did the Pakistani PM lie? Or did they change the deal?

 

[Falcon29]

The blood in Lebanon confirms the confirmed

This is a bloody, brutal entity with no future in this region, no matter how the years pass.

 

[SABRE]

Iran should not withdraw from the ceasefire

that will give Israel what they want

then the war will be fought on Israelis terms

and Iran needs to the fight the war on its own terms

Agreed. But the issue mentioned here is resolving the Israeli invasion of Lebanon.

 

[hasssanali8998]

barak could be trying to break the deal

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

As I said Iran has to understand what he's trying to cover that forces his hand!
Everything is financial. The oil prices will instantly hit $120 and bond yields that have dropped 25-30 basis points will climb instantly.
There is systemic risk to his bluster and he knows it... he made his casino deal knowing he was broke but played the banks and investors into backing his project that still went bankrupt.

He's fishing... reading the room.

Operation Sindoor 2.0 on 'Pause' by India Phraand Dolun Thrump!

Almost three weeks.. I should say Iran is still standing. The Millet e Iran that is. Coconuts caved in rather too quickly. As expected. Curse of Browns = Coconuts.

Who called Uncle first?

Without a doubt the one who was Screaming everyday.. in fever for attention.

India Phraand became Surrendera Thrump! Birds of a Feather.

There is NO CeaseFire. Smoke Screen. ONly a fool or a coconut will fall for it.

Now that Inertia is Broken and everything is Open, in a Flex.. so many more Events are Ready to spring forth...

Things must Fundamentally chance otherwise... Nothing has happened. Won't you say?

In this Third Actor Dynamics Flux must Give way to Form...
New Form must jell and then become Solid State. Otherwise, all for naught.. selling Iran by the Bazari is not new. So I fear the obvious.

Can the US bomb Iran to Stone Age without a very, very steep Price? No.

Can the US nuke Iran? Yes. But then even a Bigger Inertia will be Broken.

Victory?

For the US to have a Sell-able Narrative and keep the GCC under its thumb.

For Iran to be Free to be a Sovereign. Truly Sovereign. Straits Officially under the belt.

This not the place.. but I would say though... it has been a Very Long Time/Path for Iran to seek Sovereignty. Iran has been not be such for at least past 1 and half century.

The War of Iranian Independence is NOT over yet. It might become like our War of Independence... which we lost and became Eternal Coolies.

Anyhow, the name the Game is Consolidation now in the Third Actor Dynamics.

Does Iran possess a Foresight and Depth of Understanding to Seize the Moment?
Or will it be happy that its coconuts can get a belly rub and keep fetching the fxxxing ball?
Who knows.. the Iranians start buying downtown properties now ..Openly that is.
Or will Iran remain Alive to the Momentum of History and finally become the First Brown Nation to become Truly Sovereign?

The GCC now has to understand that the Third Actor Dynamics are more vitalised than before and a New Security n Economic Framework needs to be worked out... relying on the Empire is a Mirage.. but then desert does like its mirages.. or is it the Djins?

Pitty for India that it could not join the war with the US and its allies... by attacking Pakistan...
Doing the same false-flag thing might not be that valuable now that the Inertia is Broken for good.

Oman doesn't want money from the Stratis.. noble of them!
Iran must now Collect all of it.

The One/Ones who can bring fore a Solid Security n Economic Architecture that encompasses all of West Asia and includes Pakistan and Turkiye .. in it as integral parts.. will emerge as a Pole of Great Significance in the Emerging World Order.

Flux. Flux. Flux.

To the Bold the Fortunes!

Mun Khorsid um.
Mun Jamshid um.
Mun Se Kishwar um.
Mun Noor e Jahan um.

 

[Bratva]

Few things.

Everyone has congratulated Pakistan, even Kuwait. UAE has been silent.

Pak Mil and ISI have less then 24 hours to assure safety of Iranian delegation. Make no mistake, Israel, India, UAE and some in the US want Islamabad talks to fail.

Next 48 hours os going to be VITAL

Shahbaz Sharif didn't name UAE when he was thanking countries who helped in mediation. I'm loving this silent treatment from both sides. The return of loan and leaving UAE out of mediation process.

 

[Blain2]

I'm of the opinion that this "ceasefire" is just breathing space for the US and Israel to restock and move assets into the arena then the big show begins in the not-too-distant future. Trump will justify it as "Iran broke the ceasefire". There are numerous air assets being moved east as I write - 12x additional A-10s over the UK earlier and some Navy E-2 Hawkeye's across Spain and Italy (all public knowledge) so join the dots yourselves.

As someone mentioned up-thread, no part of these "Pakistan ceasefire" celebrations solves the Israel problem.

It does not matter what you think. Iranians SIGNED up to the ceasefire like the Americans. I am sure they see the pros and cons of it from their side and know better than either you or me.

Again, how does Pakistani mediation become a target for you? Did Pakistan hold a gun to the Irani and American heads?

 

[Magi]

The ink on the so called ceasefire agreement hasn't dried and they already imposed new sanctions on Iran and destroyed more infrastructure. Also attacked Lebanon.

This war is by no means over and it looks terrible for Iran to stop firing or to open the Strait.

 

[Immortals]

When I told you guys Argachi is an incompetent traitor people defended say “he’s just a diplomat”

@Persian Gulf

@ShapurII

Jail Zarif, Rouhani, Argachi, and Khatami. Refer their cases to Supreme Court for treason and execution.

 

[hasssanali8998]

Israel was informed late about the U.S.–Iran ceasefire deal and was not happy about the limited consultation.

Trump called Netanyahu shortly before the announcement, and Israel agreed to join, but objected to including Lebanon in the deal.

Israel says the ceasefire applies to Iran only and continues strikes against Hezbollah in Lebanon.

Source: WSJ

 

[Pak-Warrior]

I fail to understand why some Iranians are dissatisfied upon hearing the news of the ceasefire under the Islamabad Accords. Perhaps they are unable to set aside their arrogance and acknowledge Pakistan’s wisdom and capability to achieve such an outcome. Alternatively, they may simply disregard the interests of the Iranian people. Or, they might be Pahlavists who cannot recognize the wisdom of Iran’s current leadership. In my view, Iranians ought to take pride in their country and also show gratitude to Pakistan. At least on this forum.

Irony is that, only those Iranian friends should complain on ceasefire who are actually inside Iran and will remain in Iran forever. Iranians living in western countries seriously cannot complain on ceasefire and ask Iranians back home to keep getting killed and keep absorbing the massive bombardment.

Honestly, IRGC has pulled a great feat and most unbais commentary already saying that they got strategic victory. This is the best what Iran could have hoped for. You cannot really expect United States to completely lay down in front of you.

and Yes the ego & arrogance is a negative personality trait with our Iranian friends and I always feared that will go further high after this war.

 

[Goenitz]

China would be a great benefactor, but if it wants to hold on, then it should drop the fear of using force or starting a war; otherwise, it won't be beneficial for China in the long run.

yeah.. china has to show its willingness to fight or take a stand.
Anyway, China-Pak media center has opened in Islamabad.

It will be used to give official statements.

ll major powers that lack nuclear weapons need to go nuclear if they want to remain independent and safe. Pakistan needs to go for more nukes, develop ICBMs and SLBMs, induct SSBNs, and other military equipment that gives it offensive firepower

I heard Inida is making a base in Madagascar. Pak can use this excuse to make long range missiles.

 

[Blain2]

Any positive action to stop war and maintain peace deserves respect and support.

Pakistan has merely tried to provide an opportunity for peace, and the choice lies with the Epstein coalition or Iran.

We Chinese have a saying: If you do not respect the face given, then no one will give it again in the future.

If Pakistan's efforts fail, which other country would be suitable to seek a chance for peace?

Our Iranian and one Jamaican (could be Indian) friends are clearly not happy. It seems they think Pakistan brought the war upon them.

A stark case of shooting the messenger.