Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

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Netanyahu's criminal trial resumes on Sun. A region-wide ceasefire, incl in Lebanon, would hasten his jailing.

If the U S. wishes to crater its economy by letting Netanyahu kill diplomacy, that would ultimately be its choice. We think that would be dumb but are prepared for it.

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Russian Foreign Ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova has said that the role Pakistan played in the war between the US and Iran will always be remembered in history!!

she was struggling to hold back her tears, emotions stirred by lower oil prices.

 

[Falgrine]

Pakistan's arsenal is not Israel centric, if something happens, our tankers and AWACS will be shot down by F35's, and our jets will not be able to reach Israel. Our only hope will be the Intermediate range ballistic missiles, which I am not sure if we have them in high numbers to overwhelm Israeli defenses. Our submarines may be able to do something though.

Yup, that would be suicidal to send anything we (J10 included) have against their F15/F16s let alone F35s. Like it or not, Israelis are EW wizards.

 

[Meengla]

Bro , it seems you have been swept off your feet by much happening internet warriors.... you have declared Iran a victor ! Thanks God I didn't have a hot cup of tea in my hand.

I was one of those who said that both Gaza, Lebanon and Syria had lost by early 2025.

 

[HAIDER]

that expert is also a part time samba dancer at the Classico de Copa a very renounced highly regarded expert.

can t forget this masterpiece ...lol

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[Aad80]

A US soldier who survived the Iranian onslaught at main US base in Kuwait to CBS News.

"On this base alone, far more of our soldiers have died than the US military has admitted."

Army survivors of deadly attack in Kuwait dispute Pentagon's account, say unit "was unprepared" to defend itself

Survivors of an Iranian attack that killed six U.S. service members have disputed the Pentagon's description of events and said their unit in Kuwait was left dangerously exposed.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[clutch]

Some things I could say with a high degree of confidence about the upcoming Islamabad negotiations:
1) Trump wanted out of this war and he almost certainly requested via Pakistan to Iran to give him a way out.
2) China prevailed upon Iran to be flexible, perhaps with some Chinese assurances, if not guarantees.
3) Israelis too want out except they want to consolidate their gains in southern Lebanon and that Israelis no longer care about Iran at this point, even if Israelis wanted to 'degrade' Iran some more.
4) Just like in the June 2025 conflict between Israel-America vs Iran, Pakistan's Field Martial Asim Munir is a critical factor in not only in negotiations but also in altering the offensive actions/plans of several countries.
5) I don't think the upcoming talks in Islamabad are going to fail! It is too simplistic to think that the mere 2-weeks allowed during the ceasefire for the talks to progress are enough for the Israelis-Americans to regroup and launch another attack, but in the same way, the Iranians too have the 2-weeks to regroup, enhance the communication channels, remove the moles more, and while continuing to retain the ability to choke the Strait of Hormuz.

In my own summary: Iran is the strategic victor but Lebanon needs to be saved.

Excellent post. I think you hit the nail on the main issue... Most parties want an off-ramp. Pakistan has proven itself to be a balancing force in the region. India needs a bit of introspection to access how their foreign policy of anti-pakistan has failed.

 

[ShapurII]

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The reformist coup of Iran is completed. Mojtaba falls in the same path as his father. And people wonder why most of Lebanon outside of the Shiite populations of South Lebanon have negative views of Iran.

@Persian Gulf
@ShapurII
@Shags101

What will be the reaction of the IRGC? Can they do something?

 

[Immortals]

What will be the reaction of the IRGC? Can they do something?

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IRGC haven fallen in line. If Solemani was alive, he could have taken over the country as the was the most popular individual across all aspects of Iranian society.

It seems the only IRGC official who knew how to hide was Qaani. He was a target in all the wars and skirmishes and yet never found.

 

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[Yasser76]

Trump says Vance may not attend peace talks in Pakistan over safety concerns​

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5822016-trump-iran-peace-talks/

2 day old article, White House confirmed he would shortly after

 

[clutch]

Only real danger I see is a F-35 sneaking in and getting off a AMRAAM shot. Hopefully J-10C EW/Chaff can counter.

If it is their F-16s and F-15s, my money is on the J-10C to take them down. Also lets not forget of Israel did try it they would need tankers in the air they would light up on AWACS like a Christmas tree

Pakistan would need AWAC to support the escort.

 

[maxpane]

if Pakistan has stable economy then it can bring peace in this region . Pakistan has everything except economy. Iran trust us .kSa trust us.

 

[ShapurII]

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IRGC haven fallen in line

We don't know if Khamenei Jr. is even conscious.
So, it seems the regime change has happened after all. Started in 2018 by the assassination of Gen. Soleimani and completed in 2026 by the assassination of the late Khamenei.

 

[F.O.X]

Yup, that would be suicidal to send anything we (J10 included) have against their F15/F16s let alone F35s. Like it or not, Israelis are EW wizards.

We are sort of experts in that field as well, ask our neighbors.

 

[brazensword]

Holeeee Phuck 200 pages, im on 8076. Ain't nobody got time for that . Work got to me, anything I missed?