Yasser76
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The air space will be tightly controlled, also once safely in Pakistan the fighters may just head back to base, no need for dramatics over 'Pindi....
Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds
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The air space will be tightly controlled, also once safely in Pakistan the fighters may just head back to base, no need for dramatics over 'Pindi....
ToddE
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Majority is sheep is highly stupid
Flotilla
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Obviously it is a sels-steem problem
Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ
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Nothing can materialize... Orange is twisting arms to have someone else bare the consequence of his aggression in the region and allow US a safe transition back to the bases. And I don't think anyone is going to bite... or afford losses away from their shores. Brits can least afford nor have the ability to project for a sustained period even if they commit for a suicide mission.
The cost is already high enough to dissuade any further fervor other than zionist political demands to push others head first in fire and collapse the global economy. Something zion would least care is that leads them to rule the ashes.
RocketLaw
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Islamabad Talks
English Translation:
The stage has been set at the Jinnah Convention Centre in Islamabad for historic negotiations.
Spaces have been allocated for international media, arrangements made for cultural music.
English Translation:
The stage has been set at the Jinnah Convention Centre in Islamabad for historic negotiations.
Spaces have been allocated for international media, arrangements made for cultural music.
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Meengla
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No, Iranian position is not to 'wipe off' the Jewish people in Israel and Iranian position is also that whatever the Palestinians accept as solution, Iran too would accept. Iranian position boils down to a duplicate of the removal of the Apartheid nature of South Africa in Palestine. Not unreasonable.
But sad to see you can't remove your love for the Trump admin to line behind whatever an obviously unhinged and compromised guy in the pocket of Netanyahu. A large majority of Americans are opposed to Trump's Iran policy and a growing number are starting to see that it was Netanyahu who is behind this war.
You don't have to support thousands of Mai Lai to prove your 'patriotism'.
Watandar
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Not really an issue as Israel doesn't even accept the Palestinians, whom it has kept stateless for generations.
KingQamaR
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Goenitz
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Also, Pak should provide the cover over Tehran airspace or the west side of the Persian Gulf when they land back. I heard our AWACS was in the Gulf area (Flight Recorder data).
I am 100% sure their movements will be tracked to their hideouts after they land in Tehran.
More importantly, they may go to Ayat-Ullah to brief him in person. Which is dangerous. I hope there is a 3rd person in the delegation (who is not famous) who can skim through the returning convoy/delegation for that job.
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Mutakalim
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They should remember that Crusaders remained in the Holy Land for almost 200 years. They plundered, they raped, they committed massacre after massacre and they desecrated the holy sites. They attacked Damascus, they pillaged Asia minor, they rampaged Egypt, even they attacked and destroyed Christian Constantinople.
What happened after all their evil doings? They were annihilated!
GWXP
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Iran gained invaluable experience of fighting US and Israel and Gulf Arabs.
US and Israel achieved nothing except radicalization of Iran.
This war united Iranians with their government and only made the Islamic Republic stronger.
Iran lost multiple 65-75 years old officials who were preparing for retirement and a new generation of officials will replace them.
For 86 years old Khamenei it is a Great Honor to die as a martyr.
Israel and Gulf Arabs suffered significant damage to their infrastructure while US military bases in the region are decimated.
US and Israel exhausted their stockpiles of interceptors and precision-guided munitions.
US and Israel lost the war because declared goals like regime change and destruction of Iran's missile capabilities are not achieved.
This war showed limits of US military power - they cant get what they want with force.
Iran wins by not losing to US.
US added 50bln$ to the Federal Debt while Americans have to pay higher price of gasoline.
And Arabs will pay all the damage and costs of this war to Iran through fees Iran collects from their oil tankers in the Strait of Hormuz.
Iran will rebuild everything that was bombed and Arabs will pay for it.
And the Houthis didn't even start shooting at ships in the Strait of Bab-el-Mandeb.
US and Israel achieved nothing except radicalization of Iran.
This war united Iranians with their government and only made the Islamic Republic stronger.
Iran lost multiple 65-75 years old officials who were preparing for retirement and a new generation of officials will replace them.
For 86 years old Khamenei it is a Great Honor to die as a martyr.
Israel and Gulf Arabs suffered significant damage to their infrastructure while US military bases in the region are decimated.
US and Israel exhausted their stockpiles of interceptors and precision-guided munitions.
US and Israel lost the war because declared goals like regime change and destruction of Iran's missile capabilities are not achieved.
This war showed limits of US military power - they cant get what they want with force.
Iran wins by not losing to US.
US added 50bln$ to the Federal Debt while Americans have to pay higher price of gasoline.
And Arabs will pay all the damage and costs of this war to Iran through fees Iran collects from their oil tankers in the Strait of Hormuz.
Iran will rebuild everything that was bombed and Arabs will pay for it.
And the Houthis didn't even start shooting at ships in the Strait of Bab-el-Mandeb.
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Watandar
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That would be ridiculous. Vance is the only one on the Cabinet who was reportedly not comfortable with this un-necessary war and he also has a political stake in not letting hostilities resume, as it will negatively impact his 2028 presidential run. Kushner and Witkoff yeah are Israeli assets.
Hamartia Antidote
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um..they have said something to that tune before...not sure if they have reiterated it lately.
Israel should be wiped off map, says Iran's president
Iran's new president created a sense of outrage in the west yesterday by describing Israel as a "disgraceful blot" that should be "wiped off the face of the earth". Mahmoud Ahmadinejad who is more hardline than his predecessor, told students in Tehran that a new wave of Palestinian attacks would...
www.theguardian.com
BTW I'm not an Israeli supporter. You can search for my opinion on that in some previous thread.
I'm not a Trump supporter. I'm a US military supporter.BTW You are the one whose love for something severely blinds you..just see the "wipe out" mention above as an obvious example.
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hasssanali8998
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also it aint that easy
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