Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Persian Gulf said:
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who is this guy and why is he threatening Iran and Turkey
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A 4star who qspends more time trolling on social media than leading troops
 
PAKISTANFOREVER said:
Hezbollah disarms, the israelis will massacre them. When the Bosnian Muslims disarmed themselves, the serbs massacred them. NEVER disarm when kuffar asks you too.
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Umm...agreeed.

It seems negotiations is also an aspect of warfare, and the west seems quite advanced at it - they have and will use manipulation during during "negotiations" to further their military aims and compliment their military strategies.

This is why Russia rightly told Ukraine- negotiate as you die, or you can just die.
 
Meengla said:
I maybe one of those minority Pakistanis on PDF who'd say this: I don't think Iran ever gave preference to India over Pakistan. There were some tensions starting with right after the 1979 revolution in Iran where Iran was reaching beyond its borders and that affected sectarian tensions in Pakistan. Then in late 90s the Afghan Taliban regime of Mullah Umer's action caused issues between Pakistan and Iran. Those two were the lowest points in the two countries' relationship plus the rogue Iranian missile attack on Pakistan just 1-2 years ago to which Pakistan responded and then almost literally the very next day they hugged each other. Bizarre!
The Iranian Chahbahar Port built by Indians would not be threat to Pakistan more than some Indians getting visas to do spying on Pakistan.
Finally, Ayatollah Khamenei had publicly stood by Pakistan over the Kashmir issue much to India's annoyance.
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Iran never did give preference to india over Pakistan but the fact that iran post revolution treated india and Pakistan in equal regard and did not directly side with Pakistan over Kashmir really hurt Pakistan. Keep in mind pre revolution iran was a staunch ally of Pakistan and one of its most ardent supporters. Today we talk about lack operational depth in Pakistan but back in 1965 and 1971 PAF used to be repaired and rearmed from safety of iranian bases. Iran was a diplomatic financial and millitary backstop for Pakistan. Post revolution it was Pakistans turn to return the favour, we were the first country to recognise Islamic republic, we openly threatened our relations with arab states to balance them with iran, we left centcom for iran. We smuggled in north korean Chinese and American weapons into iran to help them against the iraqis etc. we couldn’t have done more to repay iran and maintain the special relationship. But what did we get in turn? A mildly hostile pariah state on our borders that openly inflamed sectarianism and chose to balance ties with our main adversary india
 
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Ugandan army chief, a loyal puppet of Israel. To imagine in his place once sat idi amin
 
Meengla said:
You are right: No one can trust Trump.
But I think the mere 2-week ceasefire vs the originally desired 6-week (by America/Israel) is driven by Iran to prevent too much regrouping to attack Iran again; Iranians seem to think they have the momentum on their side at this point. This ceasefire is real as far as what the Americans need. And it would be too lazy to think that whatever Netanyahu wants is the same as what the Americans need. They are two different countries, after all.
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Interesting...

I hope you agree that if no breakthrough occurs in these negotiations , 🇮🇷 is supposed to return quickly to military action and not stop it until a full peace agreement with US is signed.

I am more skeptical of these negotiations than optimistic about them. I do think iran has the most to lose, because letting a superpower with vast capabilities the time to regroup and activate its "network of allies"(EU and NATO) is dangerous for any country, especially after initial war momentum is paused or lost.
 
A sad state of affairs amongst Arabs, save a few nations (Yemen, Lebanon, Algeria, perhaps Iraq, Palestine, and one or two more).

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Meengla said:
Leading to this war, India's General GD Bakhshi was saying Pakistan was going to facilitate the American attack through Baluchistan. But even he has become saner once he realized the cruelty of this war, starting with the bombing of the school in southern Iran. Mr. Bakhshi still can't say anything good about Pakistan but he seems to be a changed person now.
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You mean this guy?

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Arash said:
What is the use of negotiating with whitkoff and the little faggot ?
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Part of the crew, mostly representing and are eyes and ears of bibi, now Netanyahu can't be in Islamabad so he is sending them too, JD will be representing America.
 
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Pfffff that guy sends requests for ceasefire behind curtains and plays the King Kong in front of cameras.
 
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