Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

tsunset said:
If Iran bought Tu-22Ms and Tu-16 decades ago they would also have gotten through US air defenses
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That would depend first on whether Russia would have kept upgrading and supplying parts to those Iranian bombers up until this war occurred, and there was no guarantee of that, primarily due to sanctions hesitancy from Russia, and that might have changed after Russia got into the Ukraine war and needed military supplies from Iran (but those supplies could have been logistically late for Iran because who knows how long 🇮🇷 would've gone gon without the working bombers and how much time it would have then needed to get them back in working condition, plus the required the pilot training for that)
tsunset said:
US AD in PGCC are terrible if they managed to get bombed by 50yrs old F-5s and let them return back to Iran
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Lool. Guess Ukraine kind of let us know how US AD was gonna perform against iranian projectiles. US AD is likely good, but probably not good enough against countries with advanced drones and missiles, like Iran.

Btw to all those saying "iran should've hit dimona"- how would you actually know that factually with all the satellite and media censorship US and israel have imposed on their satellite and media companies? war is the last thing you want to give countries benefit of doubt on.
 
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FOUR MILLION BARRELS APPEAR TO HAVE EXFILTRATED US BLOCKADE LINE
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Seems like Iran has secretly or subtly let US know that any complete blockade of its oil shipments via soh would mean return to war
 
PakAl said:
What weapon does Iran have that will stop future Israel Usa attack or even a full blown war including using nuclear weapons.
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tons of drones and missiles.

but none of those weapons can touch a inch of USA mainland.

and attack USA vassals could modify war, but it wont stop it.
 
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FPV seems to have just missed the chopper and troops.
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Sounds like Iran might decide to go nuclear. In my opinion, this is just posturing for negotiations. Both sides are waiting for the other to blink first.
 
Kyussis said:
Iran does not need Nuclear weapons and will never develop them!
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It seems that people who think Iran MUST acquire nuclear weapons do not believe there is any possibility that iran can 'win' a conventional war (this is the premise for their stubborn adherence to this requirement), and offcourse that is false, iranian can win conventional war, and that can be true while at the same time accepting an Iranian loss in this war. it seems as if some Sunni countries interpret iranian confidence and belief in full dignity and independence(contextually and relatively)as a threat to them and their brand of islam . Muslim countries seem to be in for a deep crisis in the Islamic world soon.
 
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Sounds like Iran might decide to go nuclear. In my opinion, this is just posturing for negotiations. Both sides are waiting for the other to blink first.
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US not being able to effectively destroy and dismantle Iran's military operations and infrastructure this year is the biggest blunder the US has made in its Iran policy since 1979. I will guess amd say that anybody who doubts this believes in "white is right" logic.
 
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FPV seems to have just missed the chopper and troops.
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Rotor wash. They needed to follow up with another fpv drone.
 
Agreeing to a ceasefire before establishing deterrence will cost Iran.

It seems like they never learned this lesson despite all the episodes since the assassination of Soleimani.
 
925boy said:
US not being able to effectively destroy and dismantle Iran's military operations and infrastructure this year is the biggest blunder the US has made in its Iran policy since 1979. I will guess amd say that anybody who doubts this believes in "white is right" logic.
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Careful there or Orangeman may say, oh yeah hold my beer.
 
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