Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds
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SolarWarden
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Yikes. They were sent knowing they weren't coming back.
东风夜放花千树
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After experiencing the aggression of the Epstein Alliance in Iran, the idea of expecting the Democratic Party to govern is naive.
The two parties in the United States are like alternating heroes and villains. When opposing the Democratic Party, the Republicans are in power, the Democrats are the villains, and the Republicans are the heroes. When opposing the Republicans, the Democrats are in power, the Republicans are the villains, and the Democrats are the heroes. The international community and the American people think that villains lose power because they did bad things and paid the price.
This is a misunderstanding; paying a price does not mean taking responsibility. They can still obtain power, continue playing this game, and throw blame and responsibility far away.
Here is an example: in 2018, Trump unilaterally withdrew from the Iran nuclear deal and imposed massive sanctions on Iran. Allied countries like the UK, France, and Australia followed the US and strengthened sanctions against Iran.
Under Democratic rule, Iran nuclear negotiations went from 2021 to 2025 without reaching an agreement.
After Trump came to power, he launched two wars of aggression against Iran.
The Iran nuclear negotiations lasted from 2021 to 2025 until Trump was in office. It was an unfair negotiation. During these eight years, Iran bore the sanctions while the US suffered no damage. Iran's economic deterioration is related to both the Republicans and the Democrats. This was a deliberately created disaster and a bargaining chip to force Iran to concede.
This is an American game played by the Democratic and Republican parties, and the ones bearing the price are the people of other countries.
Therefore, if you stand from the perspective of the country, you should not have any expectations of the Democratic Party. In other words, you should not have any expectations of the United States.
The two parties in the United States are like alternating heroes and villains. When opposing the Democratic Party, the Republicans are in power, the Democrats are the villains, and the Republicans are the heroes. When opposing the Republicans, the Democrats are in power, the Republicans are the villains, and the Democrats are the heroes. The international community and the American people think that villains lose power because they did bad things and paid the price.
This is a misunderstanding; paying a price does not mean taking responsibility. They can still obtain power, continue playing this game, and throw blame and responsibility far away.
Here is an example: in 2018, Trump unilaterally withdrew from the Iran nuclear deal and imposed massive sanctions on Iran. Allied countries like the UK, France, and Australia followed the US and strengthened sanctions against Iran.
Under Democratic rule, Iran nuclear negotiations went from 2021 to 2025 without reaching an agreement.
After Trump came to power, he launched two wars of aggression against Iran.
The Iran nuclear negotiations lasted from 2021 to 2025 until Trump was in office. It was an unfair negotiation. During these eight years, Iran bore the sanctions while the US suffered no damage. Iran's economic deterioration is related to both the Republicans and the Democrats. This was a deliberately created disaster and a bargaining chip to force Iran to concede.
This is an American game played by the Democratic and Republican parties, and the ones bearing the price are the people of other countries.
Therefore, if you stand from the perspective of the country, you should not have any expectations of the Democratic Party. In other words, you should not have any expectations of the United States.
东风夜放花千树
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The United States has always been accustomed to using proxies to participate in wars.
After the Epstein coalition invaded Iran, the United States hoped that Middle Eastern countries and NATO countries would participate in strikes against Iran, but no one responded.
The NATO led by the United States already has a proxy in Eastern Europe, Ukraine, and a proxy in East Asia, Japan. Does the UAE want to be a proxy in the Middle East?
Such behavior is irresponsible to the people of the UAE and to the people of other countries in the Middle East.
I cannot see any benefit for the UAE in bringing the flames of war into the Middle East.
The UAE needs to confirm whether these attacks are coming from Iran. Iranian media reported that there are no plans to attack the UAE.
东风夜放花千树
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My friend, I have a different perspective.
Let us take this war as a point of reference, and then look at the issue of American wars from a broader perspective.
After the end of World War II, almost every U.S. president has launched or been deeply involved in foreign wars and military interventions.
Since the end of World War II, the United States has spent over 70% of the time in some form of war or military conflict.
My view is that Trump and Netanyahu should be held responsible for Epstein's war of aggression against Iran. The United States is accustomed to using violence to solve problems.
On a deeper level, the main reason for this war is that the United States needs to use military hegemony to maintain dollar hegemony, political hegemony, and cultural hegemony. This is the American tradition of war.
dint we do the same to Afghans? unfortunately!
东风夜放花千树
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U.S. oil accounts for less than 10% of the world's oil exports, and combined with Venezuelan oil and UAE oil, it still cannot monopolize the oil market.
The U.S. has tried to control Iranian and Middle Eastern oil through aggression in Iran, which would allow it to gain pricing power over oil. There is sufficient evidence that the U.S. controlled Venezuela and then announced the sale of Venezuelan oil.
Trump wants to control oil pricing and tightly link oil to the dollar. When the dollar’s ability to extract from the global economy weakens, Trump hopes to control the global economy through oil. If Trump achieves this plan, the next step would be to force other countries to use dollars to settle oil purchases. This would stabilize the huge U.S. dollar debt, lower its interest, and allow the U.S. to continue issuing massive dollar-denominated debt.
However, the U.S. cannot accomplish this plan.
Except for U.S. allied countries, no country would give up cheap energy in favor of expensive energy controlled by the U.S. Moreover, the U.S. is accustomed to attaching additional requirements in trade.
The UAE’s exit from OPEC was certainly supported by the U.S. and Israel. When the oil-dollar system existed, the U.S. could require OPEC to control production, and now the UAE should also be under U.S. control.
Therefore, I believe this viewpoint is incorrect. There are two reasons why the UAE increased production. First, the UAE’s economy has been greatly affected, and they need to increase production to sustain their economy. Second, the Epstein alliance wants the UAE to increase production to lower oil prices, reduce the funds Iran receives, and use economic pressure to force Iran to give up interests. This is what Trump is doing now.
EugeneP
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I think there is a difference. UAE is deporting Pakistanis of a certain sect, not all.
nope reports are they are deporting irrespective of sect.
东风夜放花千树
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These hypocritical Western politicians make me feel nauseated. Especially the countries allied with Trump.
Choosing to ignore facts and accuse Iran is an inhumane act.
Before the Epstein coalition invaded Iran, the Strait of Hormuz was open. They condemn Iran for blocking the Strait of Hormuz, yet they do not condemn the Epstein coalition for launching an aggressive war.
They accuse Iran of attacking other countries while ignoring the fact that these countries have U.S. military bases.
Now they accuse Iran of 'holding the world hostage,' ignoring that the ones truly holding the world hostage are the United States and Israel. The U.S. is still carrying out a blockade on the Strait of Hormuz.
Is this what the West calls 'civilization'? When did human civilization become so degenerate and anti-human?
Lulldapull
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Abbu-G Humreeka couldn’t budge Iran after 40 days of bombarment, what can GCC do?
Iran will demolish them all in no time if this escalates.
Invading the GCC is most certainly an option on the escalatory ladder, specifically if Iran notices the GCC complicit in US aggression.
Garcia Sea
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Iran has shown patience by failing to retaliate after its own ships were bombed and sunk. Now it has shown that it is easy prey for the US military to bomb freely, ignoring the ceasefire. Furthermore, a cargo ship was bombed and set ablaze in a southern port, but Iran has remained silent. Even when its own territory becomes the direct target of bombing, it accepts it as is.
It's game over. Under its weak leadership, Iran is surely heading down the path to becoming another Iraq.
It's game over. Under its weak leadership, Iran is surely heading down the path to becoming another Iraq.
Papa Schultz barking again ?
