Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

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Meaning: The closure of the SoH is a one-time joker for Iran.

They need to make the most out of it now.

In the future, it will never be as effective as it is at this very moment in time.
 
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Maybe because all those are very close to Iran and also tiny nations, even Oman. So maybe more likely to be targets of Iranian drones and missiles, which Iran seem to have plenty of them. The strategic depth is very important in this conflict. Israel is mostly spared due to the distance from Iran. The American bases not so. Saudi Arabia is huge in size and provides a lot strategic depth for the American bases.
 
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Agree with this. Trump has on numerous occasions blamed close allies for his own strategic and military failures.
 
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I don't know what to comment on people who continue to make the same mistakes over and over again.

The Iranian leadership seems to be hell-bent on giving the US and Israel time and space to rearm.
 
ShapurII said:
Saudi-Iran relations have always been sour. Other than a short period of friendship during King Faisal, who was assassinated, our relations have always been bad.

And most of your claims are false. Saudis created propaganda videos of invading Tehran in 2018. They have killed hundreds or maybe even thousands of Iranian pilgrims twice, on two different occasions during Hajj. MBS publicly said in several interviews that he was going to bring war into Iran. Saudis have constantly backed territorial claims of the UAE against Iran, have openly called Iran an occupier of the three islands, and provided military and financial support to Iraq during the Iraq-Iran war. They supported Saddam's claim on the Khuzestan province of Iran as well. They have been telling the US presidents to cut "the head of the snake" since at least 2011.

Out of all Arab countries, they are by far the most hated Arab country in Iran. And this is a sentiment that is shared by the majority of Iranians
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i agree that there is less love between people of both nations. But a 5min anonymous movie can wreck havoc in tehran. I dont think iranians are so sensitive compared to indian media propaganda against pakistan . Still people in lahore and karachi are willing to die for hindus(so much brainwashed)
Incidents which caused iranian death twice on hajj.
1- 464 iranian out of 1400-2400 total died in 2015 during stampede in mina. (If u have done hajj you would know KSA cannot control huge number of pilgrims as they approach jamraat .they did improve by building bridges)
To blame KSA for killing so many pilgrims maybe bias as i have been on hajj and knows that thing are beyond control as people move in bulk and heat. This incident has highest ever death record of iranians.
2- other incident you are refering is 1987 clash between saudi forces and pilgrims resulting in 400 deaths.Again anyone who has ever gone to kSA and makkah knows always follow the police command because it will save many others.1979 episode of mahdi from iran might be the cause of hate.
3-MbS said this and that hurts the feeling of iranians😄 like finding a reason to hate somone.i have heard huge amount of rumours west and rest of world relates to MBS without proof just NYT or washington post articles but KHomenia is revered and scandals never gets leak.i would say huge character assassination of mbs compared to irgc or khomenia.
4- Recently FM of KSA and IRan were made to meet and resolve issues in china.
5-your post implies KSA or iran want to take over UAE and UAE has no reason to exist as independent country . IRANIAN HAVE THEIR SHARE OF CRIMES EVEN IF PUBLIC CAN GLORIFY liberation wars of past.
6-moreover ,So many people here always quote end time hadiths and prophecy but they never mention any presence of different sect fighting each other . SINCE THERE IS MENTION OF MUSLIMS FIGHTING OR MUSLIMS SUFFERING WHICH IMPLIES UNITED FRONT UNDER SINGLE COMMAND.
P.s
* i am not ksa spokesman nor have i any links .
* bold part was the thought behind initial post.hope no one is offended.peace
 
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Persian Gulf said:
All of this is true, though they will have their own list of grievances with us

In my view, we can and must work with the Saudis. We don’t share as much culturally but we have more aligned interests than with the UAE or Bahrain, and the Saudis are big enough that we can’t dismiss or ignore them
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I have not seen any saudi who says he want to live in tehran and occupy it.maybe in anger or under pressure but even just swapping places is hardly possible. Cold vs hot
 
RocketLaw said:
BREAKING:

Saudi Arabia and Kuwait have ditched Trump, they no longer have any hope in US defense

Trump's "Project Freedom" collapsed after Saudi Arabia and Kuwait suspended US military access to their bases, airspace, and overflight rights, per NBC News and Ryan Grim.

Mohammed bin Salman blocked the US from flying aircraft out of Prince Sultan Airbase or through Saudi airspace, completely grounding the operation and removing the air defense umbrella protecting ships in transit.

Bin Salman was "furious" after Trump announced Project Freedom on Truth Social without notifying them.

Qatar and Oman were also blindsided, with Trump only contacting them after the operation began.

A direct call between Trump and the Crown Prince failed to resolve the situation.

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It’s all falling apart. When you’ve lost the Saudis it’s beginning to look like a complete and utter humiliation. Now you have UAE regrets attacking MBZ on X. What a shambles.
 
Give MBZ bangles, this is their "retaliation" to Iranian attacks. UAE will come to an end soon I think....

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Meaning: The closure of the SoH is a one-time joker for Iran.

They need to make the most out of it now.

In the future, it will never be as effective as it is at this very moment in time.
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It takes many years to build pipelines to avoid the Strait of Hormoz

More likely: its effectiveness reduces with time but still remains effective for the foreseeable future
 
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U.S. intel also indicates that Iran retains about 75% of its pre-war inventories of mobile launchers & about 70% of its pre-war stockpiles of missiles, per a U.S. official. Iran has also been able to recover underground storage facilities & repair damaged missiles
 
Persian Gulf said:
It takes many years to build pipelines to avoid the Strait of Hormoz

More likely: its effectiveness reduces with time but still remains effective for the foreseeable future
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Iran should never let these pipelines and oil facilities circumvent Persian Gulf. They should have no free choice at all in this matter because they assisted the destruction of Iranian lives and infrastructure twice, during Iran-Saddam war and during Iran-Israel war.

If they reject paying war reparations, then Iran should reject bypass of Hormuz and enforce that militarily. All of the Persian Gulf should be declared Iranian territory and published in local media, education and maps.

Persian Gulf Strait Authority (PGSA) is a beautiful initiatief.

Few shahed drones a month for any PGCC who dont agree with the enforcement.
 
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There is difference but most importantly it changes the nature of battlefield. It changes the mix of protagonists, active abstention and active support/participation.

It changes the political backdrop and narrative. Remember this is one of the very few times that US has actually killed a leader of a state as an act of aggression. The US had been careful historically in such matters to avoid the blowback in coming years and decades. Saddam was tried in an Iraqi court similarly Gaddafi and even Pakistani General Zia was not claimed by the US. The fallout of what has already happened is going to take years and decades past the clown in the office who has made the future of the whole humanity more perilous and fraught. Which no intelligent person would have pursued... the zionists are on a suicide watch and the US is actively bring death for the rest.

Without going further... the fallout and implications on the region haven't been fully reconciled nor measured. So, Saudis are among the rest who're recalibrating according to the dawning reality.
 
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