Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Professor Jiang said:
Can you elaborate? All micro and macro economic indices show that there is a significant portion of the US population that is financially insecure to the point that they are already in poverty, or hovering just above the threshold of being impoverished. Many Americans already live paycheck to paycheck with no savings. Even a short stay in hospital can cause people to be in severe debt for years.
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Average American still makes 5x more than the average 2nd / third worlder that they have plundered and looted from.
 
ShapurII said:
Why don't you use your actual username for goh khori?
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My man, you are flattering yourself if you truly think I created a new account to confront you.

Your paisans resisted the most powerful country the world has ever seen and defeated these forces by taking strategic control of the war.

Yet all you do is spewing negative diarrhea. Imagine if the warriors on the shores of the Persian Gulf carried the same defeatist attitude. I'm not sure if you realize how insufferable you come across.
 
brazensword said:
Of course, gotta spend that loot somewhere while the world gets by on scraps.
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No, western masses are struggling with affordability massively. $hit's about to hit the fan and will bring down living standards in the West and over the next decade or so may not be as viable a place to live economically as other parts of the world, especially for retirees, who are already looking to settle abroad in the 2nd/3rd world where they can spend their last few years unbridled with medical debts and ever-rising living expenses.
 
Most militaries will show case to the public technology that had already been deployed and mass produced.
Iran showed the Shahab III in or around 2008 . If we assume that it was being mass produced in 2006 (they certainly had more advance systems at that time) , and if we go by the 1200 per year number , you are looking 24,000-30,000 missiles that can reach Israel .
That does not take into account all of the short range and medium range BMs built for the war with the US.
I am betting that Iran’s inventories are north of 100,000.
 
Meengla said:
To quote the dear departed great philosopher John Pilger: 'Democrats have been rapacious on foreign wars for half a century'. There is no excuse to be made for Democrats policies either. BUT the winds are starting to change their directions in America where a far larger number of Democrats are against foreign wars, especially in the Middle East, than the Republicans are.
This war on Iran was denied to Israel by every American President until this Zionist Trump came to office. Trump's political base is anti Muslim, anti immigrant, Rapture Seekers, and racist even though I recognize in his base there are many who are patriotic Americans who want fiscal responsibility and not appeasing the lazy asses in the American society for votes, which the Democrats do. But as far as the Middle East is concern, I have no doubt should a Democrat be the POTUS in 2028 then we will see a major shift which will not please Israel at all.
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"Obama told The Atlantic magazine that a military option was still one possibility among a package of other measures."

How to explain that? I dont talk about USA internal affairs, it's another different topic.

But USA foreign policy is not a party thing, last years it keeps stable from one administration to another, it changes the excuses, it keeps the targets.

In Russia and China politicians define the foreign policy, but USA is a different thing.

USA economic elite has huge power, can someone believe that foreign policy is in the hands of some bribed/blackmailed corrupt politician?

Isn't one thousands bigger the power of Wall St elite than USA politicians? And they are not like other countries bankers, they have a lot of interests in USA foreign policy because his power is sustained in it, Soros wrote articles about USA foreign policy last years, and his will is strangely fulfilled over one administration to another (e.g Ukraine war, fueled by Soros NGOs).

In 2023 happened the biggest attack (in amount of Israeli killed one single day) against Israel in his whole history, Oct 7. Current Iran war had been impossible without Oct 7 attacks.

I only see USA damaging whole world economy using Israel/Iran conflict as tool, like they did with tariffs. American people interests are damaged as well, but USA elite interests are not.

Is it good for USA elite damage world economy? Yeah, they have all the money, money is not a problem for them, the problem for them is stop China power, and decrease raw materials / energy world consumption to ensure future supply.
 
FUB said:
Most militaries will show case to the public technology that had already been deployed and mass produced.
Iran showed the Shahab III in or around 2008 . If we assume that it was being mass produced in 2006 (they certainly had more advance systems at that time) , and if we go by the 1200 per year number , you are looking 24,000-30,000 missiles that can reach Israel .
That does not take into account all of the short range and medium range BMs built for the war with the US.
I am betting that Iran’s inventories are north of 100,000.
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Shahab III was tested successfully in 2003. Sejjil was tested in 2008.

For the most part, Iran produced fewer than 50 missiles per month. Even then, Iran's inventory should already be north of 10K missiles.

If we assume 50 missiles per month for 20 years, and 100 missiles per month for the next 2 years prior to the war, we should have 14,400 missiles. Minus 2,000 for the missiles we have used so far on Kurdish rebels, Ain al-Assad, ISIS in Deir Ez-Zur, TP1, TP2, TP3 and the Ramadhan war.

Another safer estimate is 20 missiles per month for 20 years, 50-100 missiles per month in 2024-2025 and 300 missiles per month in 2025-2026 after Israel attacked Iran. This one sums up to 9,300 missiles. So, even by this estimate, Iran should have over 7K missiles left. Assuming Iran fires 30 missiles per day like in the Ramadhan war, this enables Iran to fight for at least another 6 months, if not longer.
 
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The UAE is losing 600 million daily due to the stagnation of tourism and the closure of luxury hotels. One day, I had a ten-hour layover at Dubai Airport. I decided to go out into the city and sat down near the Burj Khalifa for a meal. Honestly, I couldn't even spend two hours there; I felt suffocated and had to call a taxi to go back to the airport. What is tourism in the UAE? It's a country of sand and deadly humidity, a country of taxes and exorbitant prices, and it's not even fit to live in...

 
A clear divide within the PGCC on Iran:

Saudi Arabia remains diplomatically engaged with Iran, now with 6 calls since the war started.

Along with:

Oman: 5 calls & 2 meetings
Qatar: 5 calls

Practically no engagement:

UAE: 1 call (VP-Ghalibaf)
Kuwait: 0
Bahrain: 0
 
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