Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Bratva]

You can't even establish internal security; forget about taking on Iraqis and Yemenis. Your an inflated army with one of the worst trackrecords of any nation in military history, propped up by China because you serve their strategic interests against India.

And your relation with the Arabs is nothing more than one of providing cheap cannon fodder to the Saudis, who don't consider you to be equal in any one sense.

@Musings I guess moderator of this thread only singles me out and let others make snide remarks and discuss Pakistan army in this thread

 

[Shags101]

Neither the Americans or the Israelis had to call the ceasefire in the second week of April brokered by Pakistan but a ceasefire was still called. The Americans and the Israelis were largely unimpacted except Israelis hiding in shelters or Americans abandoning the destroyed local bases. But a ceasefire was still called and I believe that was because a pushback by the Pentagon that further escalation was not going to move the needle. And the Pentagon has stood its ground since then.

Once should pay close attention to every word Robert Kagan said about this conflict. Of all people, Robert Kagan is admitting no real military options left. But weeks before him, war hawks like Newt Gingrich and John Bolton had already said that unless the Strait of Hormuz is re opened the war would be lost.

I wouldn’t say no real impact American bases and a lot of material lost throughout the Middle East and the Israelis received a heavy hit no matter what wasn’t on the scale of GCC and American assets but wasn’t what the Israelis thought was going to play they called a ceasefire plain and simple because as in like every other fight once their interceptors got to a critical level we saw that even the handle full of missiles Iran sent into Israel they started to to connect on a daily basis I still remember that hit in the industrial zone where it looked like a nuke went off in the middle of the night or the near close call at dimona

 

[KAL-EL]

But Iran still feels the need to "negotiate" with the "dead" and "wiped out" America it's right to have a nuclear program?

I'm surprised the Americans haven't surrendered to Iran with the amount of confidence Iranians have of being victorious over the US.

I believe the USN is about to hand off all its ships to the IRGC as a token of surrender.

 

[Meengla]

Who are these guys in red caps around the Pakistani Army Chief Asim Munir in all these scenes?? SSG Commanders? BTW, I recently saw a video that Americans, in the early years of Pakistani nationhood, trained and formed the SSG group of Pakistan?

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[tsunset]

Iran should hit Polymarket degenerate gambling headquarters that speculate over Iranian children deaths

 

[Immortals]

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[Ali_Baba]

This war is wrapping up and would be sad if I am proven wrong but that is my understanding. And I'd repeat that Iran is going to come out ahead from this war.

Iran has smartly tied the sanctions against it with the strait of Hormuz sanctions on the world. Smart. If Iran can get rid of the sanctions, then game on for Iran, that alone is worth more than anything else as long as the USA honours the sanctions removal.

 

[Shags101]

Trump: Deal with Iran ‘largely negotiated,’ Hormuz to be opened, call with Netanyahu ‘went very well’

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Honestly I will believe it when I see it but very odd past few days he’s been more quiet than usual again crazy clown you never know what to expect but if this war is over let’s see him attempt to do a victory lap the stocks might go up the next day but that basically benefits the rich everyday people are going to be hurting for quite awhile and after his speech I don’t care about the financial well being of the average citizen I’m thinking a few month from now the republicans or going to take a hit modest or large yet to seen

 

[Shags101]

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I’m waiting for it to actually be done but again if the reports are true this is just a stop gap 60 more days

 

[Meengla]

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Iran has smartly tied the sanctions against it with the strait of Hormuz sanctions on the world. Smart. If Iran can get rid of the sanctions, then game on for Iran, that alone is worth more than anything else as long as the USA honours the sanctions removal.

Iran had won this war. I don't know why people didn't see it weeks ago. SMH!

 

[Ali_Baba]

Iran had won this war. I don't know why people didn't see it weeks ago. SMH!

I agree - Iran has won this strategically. Every objective that USA and Israel had, they failed in.

I don’t see any USA president attacking Iran again ever.

This was Netanyahu last chance and he blew it.

 

[Musings]

I have a bad feeling that Israel will do something to derail the deal before it is signed… hope not..

Ye i agree with you. Think everyone is ready to get on with their lives apart from the mad dog of the region. Am surprised no false flags in the last week or 2. They are caable of just about anything

 

[Meengla]

I agree - Iran has won this strategically. Every objective that USA and Israel had, they failed in.
I don’t see any USA president attacking Iran again ever.

You said that before and I agreed with you on that then too.

 

[Sarhang]

Iran had won this war. I don't know why people didn't see it weeks ago. SMH!

I am against the mullah regime and want them gone but literally no one expected their resolve to fight this hard against the US/Israel.

The worlds biggest superpower with all its technology and firepower along with Israel struck everything they could for almost 40 days and the regime still stood strong. Not to forget their constant battering of the Persian Gulf US poodle states, and of course the Strait of Hormuz.

It is an epic win for the Islamic Republic.

 

[Meengla]

Ye i agree with you. Think everyone is ready to get on with their lives apart from the mad dog of the region. Am surprised no false flags in the last week or 2. They are caable of just about anything

Because Israel can't breathe without America. During the recent Gaza-Israel war, the Israelis wanted to attack Iran but the US Sec. of Defense had warned Israel against that , even against a False Flag, saying 'We would know you did it'.
Biden admin, as horrible as it was, still didn't allow a frontal attack on Iran. Trump II turned out to be exactly like I had warned multiple times in the Israel-Gaza war thread before Trump was elected in 2024; I and the Zateo's Mehdi Hassan knew 'It could always be worse' and it has been worse.