Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[VCheng]

This is really worrying. It is like a cáncer eating alive the host.

But why worry? Wouldn't you like to rejoice when this cancer kills the host?

 

[Ali_Baba]

the latest response from Iran was weak and underwhelming, it was far from sufficient to restore deterrence

they must target USN ships with a large number of munitions simultaneously

Iran maybe feeling that by responding, but doing weak responses, it does not escalate things, but that approach is having the opposite effect because it makes Trump think that the cost of further aggression on Iran by the US, and US casualties will be low as he perceives Iranian militaries technical abilities as being low. This is the danger for Iran, that its anti-denial technical capabilities are being viewed as weak.

This is invites more war, and more danger and not less.

The inability of Iran to actually hit a US warship should be worrying for Iran. Iran doesn't need to fire off lots of munitions, it needs to hit multiple ships in the same way it hit multiple aircraft over Iran, to establish real "technical deterrence".

 

[PK781]

the latest response from Iran was weak and underwhelming, it was far from sufficient to restore deterrence

they must target USN ships with a large number of munitions simultaneously

perhaps the iranian leadership also wants a deal and to end this war, and its showing restraints ? Time will tell

 

[Professor Jiang]

The inability of Iran to actually hit a US warship should be worrying for Iran. Iran doesn't need to fire off lots of munitions, it needs to hit multiple ships in the same way it hit multiple aircraft over Iran, to establish real "technical deterrence".

Has anyone documented or verified attempts from Iran at sinking warships, or is it more an assumption that they are incapable of hitting these vessels?

 

[925boy]

Hmm .I guess this isn't too surprising and I wouldn't be surprised Iran was aware of the deployment of IDF forces to AZ(maybe the Iranian drone strikes in AZ were a warning?)

Either way, it seems like Russia will have to reset Armenia and Iran will have to reset Azerbaijan.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Weak characters become arrogant when they become wealthy, but when that wealth is not matched by hard power at state level, that arrogance becomes a liability. MBZ and his sidekicks are finding out hard way.

They employed power vicariously... through surrogacy. First the British Empire, the US and now zion. They want to navigate on high tide... well... everyone has their time under the sun and they had theirs...
Wealth is fleeting... yours one day and someone else's the next! They tend not to seek the lesson from the relics of the past or even today. US is chock full of modern ruins... mega mansions all over the place... and those on their way to become... manicured estates now reclaimed by the weeds they removed all those years.
They just had to be told that their model is unsustainable... riding high they'd tell you... you're just jealous.
Zion though sees the writing on the wall... one brought forth by unlimited resources from financial cartels... world jewry had accumulated to sustain their sole source of wealth and oppress the world... reconciling that under their chosen charade.

 

[Winthorpe]

Zionia only has a realistic window of 2.5 years to achieve its greater Zionist project. They know that there will be no president like the current one who is utterly compromised enough to be able to help them.

 

[Meengla]

The inability of Iran to actually hit a US warship should be worrying for Iran. Iran doesn't need to fire off lots of munitions, it needs to hit multiple ships in the same way it hit multiple aircraft over Iran, to establish real "technical deterrence".

The US vessels hundreds of miles from the Strait are basically unreachable, especially with the air defenses. However, it was a turkey shoot when the vessels had came close/in the Strait but Iran fired missiles over them, deliberately not striking them as large American casualties would tilt the anti-war opinion in America.

 

[Flotilla]

How US used in civilian área massive destruction weapons to maximize letality.

It is nasty. Don't forget to check what does the US people think in the comment section.

 

[Flotilla]

But why worry? Wouldn't you like to rejoice when this cancer kills the host?

Instead of asking the messenger stop smoking. I am nobody.

 

[KingQamaR]

Leon Panetta predicts that the US and Israel will attack Iran again in 4-5 years because any agreement reached will be temporary

This is exactly the scenario that Iran must avoid. Fight the war now so it doesn't return every few years. We failed in June 2025. We cannot fail again.

But now even Mohsen Rezaee is talking about making deals with Trump. Fucking Rezaee! The most hardline and retarded one of all. Maybe Zibakalam was right when he said the IRGC leaders don't support anti-Americanism and they can finally say it now that Khamenei is dead.

It will take years for Mojtaba to exert control over the various factions in Iran, and staying in hiding all this time isn't going to do that.

Huge miscalculation made by Trump. If there was even calculation in the first place , this will be in the history books as the stupidest war in recent times.

 

[Immortals]

 

[925boy]

the base was evacuated

That's not true, I do not believe it. Why US says all it's military facilities that Iran hit "were empty"?
Why would a command center US has used to manage middle east wars for decades all of a sudden be empty during another middle east war US started?

which military sites that Iran hit had US military personnel stationed there? These empty bases stories are all lies imo.

 

[Immortals]

Leon Panetta predicts that the US and Israel will attack Iran again in 4-5 years because any agreement reached will be temporary

This is exactly the scenario that Iran must avoid. Fight the war now so it doesn't return every few years. We failed in June 2025. We cannot fail again.

But now even Mohsen Rezaee is talking about making deals with Trump. Fucking Rezaee! The most hardline and retarded one of all. Maybe Zibakalam was right when he said the IRGC leaders don't support anti-Americanism and they can finally say it now that Khamenei is dead.

It will take years for Mojtaba to exert control over the various factions in Iran, and staying in hiding all this time isn't going to do that.

I don’t know if any future president (Republican or Democrat) would ever want to attack Iran again and after seeing the disaster this turned into. And I don’t think the rest of the world would sit idle and quiet if it happens again.

This was a use it once card. And Trump might have been the only US president with dictator like power and cult like following and enough political capital (initially) to do such an attack.

Future U.S. presidents much like Mojtaba won’t have nearly have enough political capital to risk their presidency legacy on another Iran war.

As for what Israel does on its own, that will depend. After 2006, everyone thought another HZ Lebanon war was right around the corner. Instead it didn’t happen till 17 years later (2023).

So everyone will claim another war with Iran is just around the corner, but it could be many years or decades or never if Iran gets the nuke.

 

[KingQamaR]

Yes I agree.

One US ship has to be hit then only deterrence will be restored. Even if US strikes back they will be more than wary to escalate issue such as this.

Right now it seems that US is more than ok to engage in low intensity strikes to send a message. Iran cannot allow that and must wrestle bXkthe escalation ladder.

Its estimated 2 billion pounds each days for 60 odd days 24/7 … and still that not included destroyed bases high end radars , military aircraft at least 150 billion pounds for sure. Nothing about this ONGOING war makes sense anymore for US pal.