Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Watandar]

Over the last 24 hours:

1. IDF soldier shot and killed a 7 months old Palestinian baby in Hebron

2. IDF kills a senior Lebanese military officer and two other Lebanese soldiers in an air strike in southern Lebanon

3. Israeli Settlers aided by at least one IDF soldier (see video) conduct a Pogrom in the Palestinian village of Huwara. 9 Palestinians wounded

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any words about this from the Sunni Muslim Arab countries that rushed to make peace and normalise relations with Israel, such as Egypt, Jordan, Morocco, UAE, Bahrain? @Falcon29

Nope. The only Zionist assertion that I have reluctantly accepted as the truth is that none of you Muslims give an actual damn about the Palestinians, you only use them for your own interests. Egypt, Jordan etc are all proof of this.

 

[hasssanali8998]

you only use them for your own interests.

qatar is the biggest one

 

[BigMela2onin]

I question why PGCC radar sites haven't been targeted like THAADS radars were. Iran can do the same as the US is doing with those drone probes and and slowly dismantle their radars. Another goal of the war should be to make Kuwait, Bahrain, and UAE conpletely defenseless.

 

[925boy]

This was Trump's personal war. It was not the 'US': For almost half a century, every American President denied the Israeli desire for this war until the Trump II Presidency.

The war could be called Trump's personal war if his personal army fought it, but that was not the case- the US military fought Iran(using US govt money) in this war, but I can agree that the motivation or reasoning behind the initiation of the war was personal for Trump.

 

[Kyussis]

Albania? The same country that floods France with its professional women ?

The same country that bases MeK terrorists.

 

[Ali_Baba]

I question why PGCC radar sites haven't been targeted like THAADS radars were. Iran can do the same as the US is doing with those drone probes and and slowly dismantle their radars. Another goal of the war should be to make Kuwait, Bahrain, and UAE conpletely defenseless.

Because Iran was targeting USA bases and systems in the PGCC, not the militaries of the PGCCs, though there was some collateral damage due to the dual use nature of ta lot of the PGCC countries.

 

[PK781]

I question why PGCC radar sites haven't been targeted like THAADS radars were. Iran can do the same as the US is doing with those drone probes and and slowly dismantle their radars. Another goal of the war should be to make Kuwait, Bahrain, and UAE conpletely defenseless.

there is nothing stopping the iranians from doing so, why isn't it done?

BIG QUESTION on the motives of whatever is going on.....

 

[Jango007]

Over the last 24 hours:

1. IDF soldier shot and killed a 7 months old Palestinian baby in Hebron

2. IDF kills a senior Lebanese military officer and two other Lebanese soldiers in an air strike in southern Lebanon

3. Israeli Settlers aided by at least one IDF soldier (see video) conduct a Pogrom in the Palestinian village of Huwara. 9 Palestinians wounded

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any words about this from the Sunni Muslim Arab countries that rushed to make peace and normalise relations with Israel, such as Egypt, Jordan, Morocco, UAE, Bahrain? @Falcon29

Where is the so called Palestinian authority and their security forces ?

Why do t they just shoot these skinny little inbred devils ? I mean just look at Israeli soldiers and settlers they look like they were fucked by pigs to be conceived …. Ugly and nasty

 

[Watandar]

Where is the so called Palestinian authority and their security forces ?

Why do t they just shoot these skinny little inbred devils ? I mean just look at Israeli soldiers and settlers they look like they were fucked by pigs to be conceived …. Ugly and nasty

OT for a minute and we can discuss this in a separate thread, but Israel's real objectives at the Oslo negotiations 1993 were to transfer the security/administrative burden of the Occupation to a native Palestinian unit. The PLO, then in exile in Tunis and desperate to return , screwed up and accepted the very vague Israeli promises and then discovered later what the Israelis actually had meant. This led to the second Intifada in which Israel enforced its vision by beating the crap out of the Palestinians and killing most of the dissenting Palestinian leadership, including Arafat.

So PA that exists now is working as designed.

 

[BigMela2onin]

Because Iran was targeting USA bases and systems in the PGCC, not the militaries of the PGCCs, though there was some collateral damage due to the dual use nature of ta lot of the PGCC countries.

PGCC air defenses are defending US bases. It is blunting Iran's ability to respond to American provocations.
Otherwise, it is in the interest of Iran for hostile PGCC states to be disarmed.

 

[Flotilla]

LOL. You "worry" about USA having cancer, but then "rejoice" when it does poorly. Who is high here is evident.

On topic, let us stop pretending.

What is starkly clear is that Iran has lost the overall geopolitical plot by virtue of being all alone in its political stance and proxy warfare. It has indeed well in the war thus far, but it has destroyed its own economy in the process.

How it will come out of this situation will be interesting to see. Its proxies has all been whittled down to the point of being ineffective. Now Iran itself is facing the situation directly.

It does have the wisdom and the means to play its cards right, and come out at the other end victorious. Whether it does that or not remains to be seen.

No. Untrue. I rejoice because of It. And if It is worrying it is for US citizens. To me US can eat each other. Don't mistake. The weaker and farther US people from Europe, the best. It is you that should be worried. If you aren't, congratulations.

But if you can't see It, how the hell would you understand that Irán It is at their peak of power since the last 200 years.

Not only their proxies are grinding slowly israelis at the north Frontier, but also they're playing with international markets controlling two waterways.... Strait of Hormuz and Baby el Mandeb.

All while they're enriching uranium in deep installations.

Enjoy your cuban cigar, amigo!!!.

 

[BananaRepublic]

US "strategy" is a mix of continuous hit and run attacks combined with blockade of Hormuz and sanctions.

Their plan is to this for months/years (creating a normalcy) before delivering a final blow, if not, to cause civil war.

Iran should prevent and disrupt this strategy by hitting back 2x harder and mopping regional US bases: Attack, analyze the damage, attack the remains/intact parts again until all these bases are 100% destroyed.

Meanwhile Keep Hormuz closed and destroy the economies of the PGCC slaves.

The big flaw with this plan is that it is a slow death for their client states.

These clients states cannot survive a decade of low attrition war - their shiny glass buildings will be swallowed up by the desert without constant maintenance.

And without oil revenue - they will be forced to sell US debt - piling even more pressure on USA.

Iran is a real country with real people - it can survive hardship.

Fake countries with fake citizens cannot survive without easy money and shiny glass buildings.

Trump cannot admin defeat in Iran the same way LBJ couldn’t admit defeat in Vietnam.

However, next President will wind it down quickly like Nixon did in Vietnam.

 

[KingQamaR]

You are getting me wrong here.

I agree that USA have suffered more than Iran. In fact, other than just military, it's a bruised ego combined with a strategic shift in geopolitics in the region where US loses its dominance.

But that doesn't mean they can't continue to harass Iran. They will continue to do that as they continue adapting in this warfare. Iran has to step up and plug the gap here to disallow US to continue carrying out it's strikes at will. The only way is to gain control of the escalation ladder and hurt US each time it decides to escalate. That way it would be too painful for them whereby they will be forced back to the negotiation table, and agree to Iran's terms.

I got to tip my cap to Iran. A lot of countries would have packed their bags and said it’s impossible to hit F-35 , reaper drones and other expensive aircraft’s. But they found a way to effect the battlefield against the strongest military in the world . Wow! They lost what took decades to build radars infrastructure in the Gulf. And reputations!

 

[BananaRepublic]

Not sure about Turks but the Kurds have repeatedly proven themselves the used condoms of the Mideast.

An ethnic group with no history of ever having a state wanting to build one with the help of crusaders.

Worked for the Jews because they are white and not Muslim.

Won’t work for Kurds because they are brown and Muslim.

Kurds need to accept it’s too late to have a state. History has passed them by…

Stop being useless idiots for the crusaders.

 

[Persian Gulf]

why is Iran firing Emad MRBMs (1750km range) at targets 200-300km away (Kuwait)?