Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

No, they didn't, no, they never have in the history of the US

I appears you were right.
Johnson used the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution to bypass the War Powers Act and only when the Vietnam War became bad the Congress repealed the GoT Resolution.
Trump never bothered to Manufacture Consent for this war. It is futile debate.


The Gulf of Tonkin act became more controversial as opposition to the war mounted. A Senate investigation revealed that the Maddox had been on an intelligence mission in Tonkin Gulf, contradicting Johnson’s denial of U.S. Navy support of such missions. The Resolution was repealed in January 1971 in an attempt to curtail President Nixon’s power to continue the war.
 
That won't help .. cutting undersea cables in Hormuz won't do serious damage , gulf countries have substitute in case of damaged done to these cables.

If you wanna harm it in a serious way you have to damage undersea cables in bab elmandab and red sea , those cables are responsible for about 20% of the world data transfer and 90% of the data between Europe and Asia and it will f*** the gulf countries internet for a very long time

that, and then there's countries that have all the "outsourced" jobs from the entire west, like india........so anything that chokes indian oil and gas supply will have ripple effects on western corporations, and shit will hit the fan if india cant function when energy dries up.
iran needs to choke the strait and bab el mandab as well, make it difficult for the world shipping to happen, raise the costs for everyone
 
Yes, I remember that but it was bullshit like almost every other thing that has come out of the mouths of the stupid people in this regime after the assassination of General Soleimani.

Even on paper, there is nothing that Iran can do to stop future US strikes.
We failed to establish deterrence. We failed to destroy Israeli infrastructure. We failed to kill Israeli citizens in large numbers. We failed to keep oil prices high. We failed to develop nukes. Heck, we didn't even dare to leave the NPT after all our official threats to do so. We failed to hit USN assets. We even failed to take Americans prisoner or kill hundreds of them.

We are a punching bag. We can hit Arabs now, but first of all, neither the US nor Israel cares about that. Secondly, this time shutting down the Strait of Hormuz won't have the same surprise effect anymore.
Iran has virtually destroyed the US presence in the Gulf. This is a massive achievement.
However this ends, the myth of US invincibility has ended.


The world is now a totally different place.
 
Iran has virtually destroyed the US presence in the Gulf. This is a massive achievement.
However this ends, the myth of US invincibility has ended.


The world is now a totally different place.
Yeah, that's such a fine thing for the Iranian citizens if tomorrow the US decides to hit Iran's power plants in the middle of summer.
 
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My guess is the U.S. and West have gotten desperate regarding the oil situation and the dwindling reserves and this operation is to open Hormuz up by eliminating Iran’s coastal defenses.

Explains why they have been attacking the coastline this past month.
 
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OK. So, the war has started already. Multiple Iranian sources confirm the explosions throughout Iran.

Not only Iran didn't do a damn thing when Trump said, several hours ago, that the US would attack Iran today, but it's already been half an hour and Iran hasn't even responded yet.

This is a pattern. Iranian decision makers never have a contingency plan, it seems. God save our people.
 
Defense Secretary is making it sound like the operations aim is to weaken Iran's hold on the Strait of Hormuz and not necessarily strikes deep in Iran
Agree. The entire American effort in the last couple months is focused on opening up the Strait , because oil reserves are desperately low and the high energy prices are a huge drag on the economy. This is why the US attacks have been focused on Iran's coast and the targets are units and facilities that Iran uses to control the Strait. It's why the US has been trying to get oil tankers out of the Strait using various surreptitious means.

This new OP also means that the American blockade has failed to subjugate Iran.

So what the Iranians can now do is treat this new Op as an opportunity to target these GCC oil tankers in the Strait. It will negate the entire American effort in the past few months and drive energy prices back above $100. Iran can bargain and then say we will stop when the US stops attacking and lifts the blockade.
 
So what the Iranians can now do is treat this new Op as an opportunity to target these GCC oil tankers in the Strait. It will negate the entire American effort in the past few months and drive energy prices back above $100. Iran can bargain and then say we stop when the US stops attacking and lifts the blockade.
This is possibly the best solution. Iran should sink Arab oil tankers in the Persian Gulf, the Arabian Sea and the Red Sea. This is even better than hitting Arab oil/gas installations.
 

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