Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

ShapurII said:
Iran is isolated. Turkey, Egypt and Pakistan are not. No matter how you look at it, Iran made a strategic mistake by trying to solve the issue of Israel on its own. An issue that was not an imminent danger to us.

If anything, Israel is more of an imminent threat to both Turkey and Egypt than it is to Iran.
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Egypt is bankrupt at the push of a button and Turkey isn't much different. The point isn't that. Iran is only isolated because of brutal us and western pressure on the entire world to cut ties with Iran. Something that they can't do forver.

The hostility between the US and IRan has nothing to do with any Iranian policy. You go and think to yourself how Iran could have defended itself today if it wasn't for decades of proxy building, missile (city) building, helping in Syria, in Iraq. Isis was created by sad sunnies that wanted revenge? Or by nato and turkey. Or al nusra? This war has been going on for 50 years and it all stems from trying to create greater 'isr' and destroying all countries that oppose it and don't want to be a vassal.

Nothing Iran can do, say or could do, say would change this. If Iran had 4 million people, it would have never become an enemy. It has 90 million and oil and lots of home grown tech and industry. So by definition it's an enemy.

China is the main enemy of the US because they're 'communist'? Or becausre they're becoming ecomonmically dominant and a threat to amercia's unsustainable 'number 1' position?
 
Persian Gulf said:
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Iran claims it has carried out missile and drone attacks

If they did, no one noticed
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Maybe wait a few hours before making doomer assessments.
 
mangekyo said:
Exactly. Even if the revolution hadn’t happened. The US would have demanded more and more from us. Then they would have eventually done exactly what they are doing to us now.
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You talk as if we have never given anything to Russia and China so far.

The only difference is that in return for being a US proxy, Iran was enjoying security and prosperity, booming as a tourist destination, huge construction was going inside the country and the Iranian passport was far more respected than it is now. Our currency was stable, inflation was under control, and our air force was armed to the teeth.

Funny, but the only weapons that actually killed more than one or two American soldiers in a single strike were the ones we purchased from the Americans themselves. I am talking about our attacks on the Buehring Camp in Kuwait. One sortie by an F-5 achieved what over 2,000 missiles could not in TP1, TP2, TP3 and TP3. :)
 
Nawnaw1 said:
China is weaker than Russia? Come on please. Go read some basics on the internet. China is so strong actually, that war will never reach it's shores. It's exactly what Sun Tzu said. The real winner of the war is the one who doesn't even need fighting. Unlike Russia that's been encroached upon since 1989 and completely cornered into having to fight this war in Ukraine (far too late).
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We've seen China weaponry in many theaters recently, mostly in the ME with their shit drones. Just deplorable!

That's why nobody buys their weapons, including Iran.
 
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Negotiations are still ongoing while the USA bombs Iran
 
mangekyo said:
Anyways, we are where we are now and there’s no reason to look back.
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You are right. No point going back to the history.
PS. Going forward, because this is a Pakistani forum, it needs to be understood by all Iranians and Pakistanis: Iran is Pakistan's strategic depth and Pakistan is Iran's strategic depth.
 
ShapurII said:
You talk as if we have never given anything to Russia and China so far.

The only difference is that in return for being a US proxy, Iran was enjoying security and prosperity, booming as a tourist destination, huge construction was going inside the country and the Iranian passport was far more respected than it is now. Our currency was stable, inflation was under control, and our air force was armed to the teeth.

Funny, but the only weapons that actually killed more than one or two American soldiers in a single strike were the ones we purchased from the Americans themselves. I am talking about our attacks on the Buehring Camp in Kuwait. One sortie by an F-5 achieved what over 2,000 missiles could not in TP1, TP2, TP3 and TP3. :)
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The point is that it wouldn’t last. And the fact that they got rid of the shah proves it. Have you heard the saying «you can’t turn a hoe into a housewife?» we’re basically hoes to them.
 
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Negotiations are still ongoing while the USA bombs Iran
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I’m feeling Qatar got left with their pants down
 
Nawnaw1 said:
Ridiculous. You're pakistani? Care to talk a bit about the Chinese weapons in operation Sindoor? How 'shitty' they were? J-10, pl-(15/16 whatever), radars, air defence?
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Absolutely horrible!.......Some of us know.

Look at their drones in ME.

Look at their AD in Caracas.
 
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