Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Watandar said:
Geneva means the US will be able to spy on Iranians 100%, just like during the JCPOA negotiations. Don't know what's going on in the minds of Iranian leadership. Perhaps they have cracked under the stress.
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The reformists need to report to their masters before signing the deal. It's easier to report to the Westerners when you are in Europe.
 
Watandar said:
Geneva means the US will be able to spy on Iranians 100%, just like during the JCPOA negotiations. Don't know what's going on in the minds of Iranian leadership. Perhaps they have cracked under the stress.
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Seriously, I'm unsure why Iran would ask for Geneva. This is setting off a red flag for me. Is it brainwashing from their youth where they still think Switzerland is some neutral haven or an ulterior motive?
 
Watandar said:
Seems Iranians suffer from this same obsession with the West, despite their nationalist denials. This agreement should have been signed in a Muslim country.
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Istanbul or Islamabad with invitation to all muslim states leadership including arabs, China, Spain, Italy. to give out a strong message. Turkey opposed attack on Iran and made statements in support of Iran, they refused to allow their territory to be used against Iran.
 
Watandar said:
Why is this signing in Geneva ?? All the mediation and negotiation legwork was done by Pakistan, with Turkey Qatar and few others assisting. The signing ceremony should be in Islamabad or Istanbul.
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imo iran probably wants a european venue becasue they think it would legitimise the deal more , also swtizerland saar

this decision was probably made by iranians , us doesnt care apart from security but they did send jd and nothing went wrong

tbh be thankfull they rememberd us and named it islamabad MOU , and they didnt sign it in qatar or turkey
 
Just saw the first 13 minutes of this. Larry saying 'the talks are real' but he and Glenn are cautious about some Israeli sabotage. Per Larry, Iranians have the capability to lock onto American jets and also Iranians, per some information Larry received, did major damage to American assets in the region in the last few days of fighting.

 
BigMela2onin said:
Seriously, I'm unsure why Iran would ask for Geneva. This is setting off a red flag for me. Is it brainwashing from their youth where they still think Switzerland is some neutral haven or an ulterior motive?
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Maybe they like Swiss cheese.

In all seriousness. I believe it’s because due to obvious reasons. No one will take an «Islamabad agreement» seriously vs «Geneva agreement»

It’s racism, but that’s how the world is unfortunately.
 
KingQamaR said:
DT and his oil barons are gaslighting everyone. With Market Manipulation. Lower prices of oil now to get some trades in and sell when the market reopen next week.
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Conclusion ???

Iran most likely told Donald Trump- sign a deal now that gives us "reasonable concessions", OR Iran keeps the SOH locked until Sept or Oct to drain US's SPR, which then unleashes an economic armageddon on the west.

Seems US govt officials know that an economic nuclear bomb's timer is on and will explode in the next 2 or 3 months if things stay the way they are. Seems like Iran played (and is good at) poilitical- military- economic Jiu-Jitsu.

This is all making me a bit speechless, we've never seen anything like this,especially in modern times.
 
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