Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

BigMela2onin said:
Will Francesco be present again in Geneva to make last minute changes to the text I wonder? I don't see why Geneva is more suitable than Islamabad, if anything the Europeans should be excluded entirely.
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Geneva means the US will be able to spy on Iranians 100%, just like during the JCPOA negotiations. Don't know what's going on in the minds of Iranian leadership. Perhaps they have cracked under the stress.
 
Watandar said:
Why is this signing in Geneva ?? All the mediation and negotiation legwork was done by Pakistan, with Turkey Qatar and few others assisting. The signing ceremony should be in Islamabad or Istanbul.
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I'd have preferred that. But Islamabad was logically a long route and understandable after Vance's visit. Plus it is not beyond the Israelis to throw some last minute hitch and for the planning purposes Islamabad would be more difficult. Europe is sort of in the middle. Also, I hear, the agreement in Geneva is to be signed in the Pakistani Embassy (or consulate?) with named as 'Islamabad Memorandum of Understanding'. Iranians are thanking Pakistan for Pakistan's help by naming as such.
 
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This is what's happening

This is why the U.S has become so desperate
 
JASSMs/ Storm shadows/ Scalps or Tomahawks when detected in time are easy to down now:

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Watandar said:
Geneva means the US will be able to spy on Iranians 100%, just like during the JCPOA negotiations. Don't know what's going on in the minds of Iranian leadership. Perhaps they have cracked under the stress.
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The reformists need to report to their masters before signing the deal. It's easier to report to the Westerners when you are in Europe.
 
Meengla said:
Just enjoy such tweets. OMG! Poor Indians!

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I saw a comment where they said Reza Pahlavi is going to invade Pakistan with the US and Israel as a punishment
 
Watandar said:
Geneva means the US will be able to spy on Iranians 100%, just like during the JCPOA negotiations. Don't know what's going on in the minds of Iranian leadership. Perhaps they have cracked under the stress.
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Seriously, I'm unsure why Iran would ask for Geneva. This is setting off a red flag for me. Is it brainwashing from their youth where they still think Switzerland is some neutral haven or an ulterior motive?
 
Watandar said:
Seems Iranians suffer from this same obsession with the West, despite their nationalist denials. This agreement should have been signed in a Muslim country.
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Istanbul or Islamabad with invitation to all muslim states leadership including arabs, China, Spain, Italy. to give out a strong message. Turkey opposed attack on Iran and made statements in support of Iran, they refused to allow their territory to be used against Iran.
 
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Watandar said:
Why is this signing in Geneva ?? All the mediation and negotiation legwork was done by Pakistan, with Turkey Qatar and few others assisting. The signing ceremony should be in Islamabad or Istanbul.
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imo iran probably wants a european venue becasue they think it would legitimise the deal more , also swtizerland saar

this decision was probably made by iranians , us doesnt care apart from security but they did send jd and nothing went wrong

tbh be thankfull they rememberd us and named it islamabad MOU , and they didnt sign it in qatar or turkey
 
Just saw the first 13 minutes of this. Larry saying 'the talks are real' but he and Glenn are cautious about some Israeli sabotage. Per Larry, Iranians have the capability to lock onto American jets and also Iranians, per some information Larry received, did major damage to American assets in the region in the last few days of fighting.

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