Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

I understand that the US told the Soviet Union that if the war continued they would use nuclear weapons. This is what stopped the war.
A US academic who was a lecturer at the war college wrote a book in which he said that the US has not won a war since WW2; implying that the US did not win in Korea.

The USA had already stationed nuclear armed bombers in the Pacific. Mao had dismissed nuclear threats from the US by calling it a paper tiger.

The USSR feared a totally confident China would undermine them. They probably thought a Korea completely taken by China could mean China as a potential rival to the USSR in Asia. Who knows. The Soviets were a slippery bunch and were always up to no good.
 
do not ignore the UAE, these bastards also might join the next round. No way this Iran-Israel Business is finished.
nope. It should be forgive and reconcile (not forget). Ignoring the UAE means welcoming Israel. It should be ideally like an EU formation post WW2, when countries who slit each other's throats sat together and moved on.
 
nope. It should be forgive and reconcile (not forget). Ignoring the UAE means welcoming Israel. It should be ideally like an EU formation post WW2, when countries who slit each other's throats sat together and moved on.
you cannot reconcile with UAE. They are inhumans, look at what they are doing to sudan. They are thje same breed as israel at the top.
 
Wow, this is huge news if true.

🇺🇸/🇮🇷 NEW: On Friday, June 19th, the U.S. Department of Treasury will issue sanctions waivers on Iranian oil, gas and petrochemical products

It will be the first time in over 7 years that Iran can freely export oil.

@Middle_East_Spectator
 
During first Gulf war American didn't not put boots on ground but they continue to weaken Iraq until Saddam ran out of defensive equipment even with the help of UN and severe sanction Saddam force to destroy UN allowed range missiles but still they made lame excuse and capture Iraq, Now you are witnessing USA / Israel scuffle even verbal but in reality this is eye wash because most of the European nations turned against Israel that is why US / Israel just playing drama and all this packs and hush hush is just to buy time in order to re-arm and attack Iran in another way.
Yes. Sanctions made Iraq very weak. At one point, its GDP was from 10.7 to 17 billion dollars (90 to 97). That was a joke for a country. The country plummeted into poverty, illiteracy and weakness.

The US won't mind attacking Iran again but cannot afford closure of the Hormuz, Bab al Mandab or Suez Canal. So, it will not start a war if it were a possibility.
 
you cannot reconcile with UAE. They are inhumans, look at what they are doing to sudan. They are thje same breed as israel at the top.
It is an Iran thread, so last comment. In Sudan, UAE are pitted against SA, so both are involved. In Algeria, both are together. You can hate UAE for many reasons but not for the above.
 
No it doesn't. It's not about right or wrong. The US will do whatever it wants because it can. Helps no one if you yourself give it more reasons to. This childishly romanticized notion of resistance without means does nothing except stop you from becoming something that actually can resist the US. Learn from the Chinese.

PS: The chants were a metaphor.

People like you would have accepted Mongol rule lol

But Muslims didn’t. Muslims defeated and then converted Mongols.

Justice is at the core of Islam. Not might! Might is temporary.
 
Wow. JD Vance personally went to Megyn Kelly show. While the first half of this short video is Vance avoiding direct answers, starting this point, he shows where he stood and still stands: Against the Israel Firsters about this war on Iran.

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12 point MOU deal leaked by Israel:

— Iran, the US and their allies will cease hostilities, including in Lebanon

— Iran reiterates its commitment not to develop or acquire nuclear weapons

— US and Iran pledge to resolve issue of disposal of enriched uranium stockpile

— US and Iran to discuss enrichment issue and Iran's nuclear needs

— Iran will maintain status quo on its nuclear program as long as negotiations continue

— The US will lift the naval blockade, not impose new sanctions, and will not increase forces in the region during the negotiations.

— Iran will make the necessary arrangements to ensure safe passage of commercial vessels through the Strait of Hormuz, free of charge, for 60 days.

— US pledges to make frozen Iranian assets available for use with implementation of MoU

— If a final agreement is reached, the US will withdraw its forces within 30 days and lift all sanctions on Iran.

— Any final agreement will include a plan to establish a $300 billion fund for Iran's reconstruction.

— US to give Iran temporary sanctions waivers to sell oil during negotiations

— Negotiations will be held between Iran and Oman with the participation of Persian Gulf policy to define "arrangements regarding shipping and maritime services"

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It is reasonable. @ShapurII

Wow!

Looks better than the version shared by Iran.
 
according to Reuters who now received the Framework agreement and papers of the Iran-US deal and confirmed then again with US officials.

the 300 billion is indeed written in there and its "Privately funded",

and half of it is already collected.

Most of the money will come from private US billionaires and some Gulf Arab´s related to their ruling families.



DUBAI, June 16 (Reuters) - A $300 billion private fund designed to trigger investment into Iran is outlined in the U.S.-Iran framework agreement and more than half that sum has already been committed, a source with ‌direct knowledge of the deal told Reuters.
The fund is designed to give both sides an economic incentive to conclude a final deal, said the source, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the plan has not yet been announced as Washington and Tehran prepare to sign on Friday.
 
Wow. JD Vance personally went to Megyn Kelly show. While the first half of this short video is Vance avoiding direct answers, starting this point, he shows where he stood and still stands: Against the Israel Firsters about this war on Iran.

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Means Vance knows which way the wind is blowing.

There’s no way he can win the Republican nomination as an Israel first-er
 

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