Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Goenitz]

During first Gulf war American didn't not put boots on ground but they continue to weaken Iraq until Saddam ran out of defensive equipment even with the help of UN and severe sanction Saddam force to destroy UN allowed range missiles but still they made lame excuse and capture Iraq, Now you are witnessing USA / Israel scuffle even verbal but in reality this is eye wash because most of the European nations turned against Israel that is why US / Israel just playing drama and all this packs and hush hush is just to buy time in order to re-arm and attack Iran in another way.

Yes. Sanctions made Iraq very weak. At one point, its GDP was from 10.7 to 17 billion dollars (90 to 97). That was a joke for a country. The country plummeted into poverty, illiteracy and weakness.

The US won't mind attacking Iran again but cannot afford closure of the Hormuz, Bab al Mandab or Suez Canal. So, it will not start a war if it were a possibility.

 

[Aryan_B]

Really. Tell me when you see any of them leaving the US camp anytime soon.

time will tell chenghi

 

[Goenitz]

you cannot reconcile with UAE. They are inhumans, look at what they are doing to sudan. They are thje same breed as israel at the top.

It is an Iran thread, so last comment. In Sudan, UAE are pitted against SA, so both are involved. In Algeria, both are together. You can hate UAE for many reasons but not for the above.

 

[BananaRepublic]

No it doesn't. It's not about right or wrong. The US will do whatever it wants because it can. Helps no one if you yourself give it more reasons to. This childishly romanticized notion of resistance without means does nothing except stop you from becoming something that actually can resist the US. Learn from the Chinese.

PS: The chants were a metaphor.

People like you would have accepted Mongol rule lol

But Muslims didn’t. Muslims defeated and then converted Mongols.

Justice is at the core of Islam. Not might! Might is temporary.

 

[Meengla]

Wow. JD Vance personally went to Megyn Kelly show. While the first half of this short video is Vance avoiding direct answers, starting this point, he shows where he stood and still stands: Against the Israel Firsters about this war on Iran.

 

[BananaRepublic]

12 point MOU deal leaked by Israel:

— Iran, the US and their allies will cease hostilities, including in Lebanon

— Iran reiterates its commitment not to develop or acquire nuclear weapons

— US and Iran pledge to resolve issue of disposal of enriched uranium stockpile

— US and Iran to discuss enrichment issue and Iran's nuclear needs

— Iran will maintain status quo on its nuclear program as long as negotiations continue

— The US will lift the naval blockade, not impose new sanctions, and will not increase forces in the region during the negotiations.

— Iran will make the necessary arrangements to ensure safe passage of commercial vessels through the Strait of Hormuz, free of charge, for 60 days.

— US pledges to make frozen Iranian assets available for use with implementation of MoU

— If a final agreement is reached, the US will withdraw its forces within 30 days and lift all sanctions on Iran.

— Any final agreement will include a plan to establish a $300 billion fund for Iran's reconstruction.

— US to give Iran temporary sanctions waivers to sell oil during negotiations

— Negotiations will be held between Iran and Oman with the participation of Persian Gulf policy to define "arrangements regarding shipping and maritime services"

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It is reasonable. @ShapurII

Wow!

Looks better than the version shared by Iran.

 

[ParthianLord]

according to Reuters who now received the Framework agreement and papers of the Iran-US deal and confirmed then again with US officials.

the 300 billion is indeed written in there and its "Privately funded",

and half of it is already collected.

Most of the money will come from private US billionaires and some Gulf Arab´s related to their ruling families.

https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/iran-deal-includes-300-billion-fund-more-than-half-which-already-committed-2026-06-16/

DUBAI, June 16 (Reuters) - A $300 billion private fund designed to trigger investment into Iran is outlined in the U.S.-Iran framework agreement and more than half that sum has already been committed, a source with ‌direct knowledge of the deal told Reuters.
The fund is designed to give both sides an economic incentive to conclude a final deal, said the source, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the plan has not yet been announced as Washington and Tehran prepare to sign on Friday.

 

[BananaRepublic]

Wow. JD Vance personally went to Megyn Kelly show. While the first half of this short video is Vance avoiding direct answers, starting this point, he shows where he stood and still stands: Against the Israel Firsters about this war on Iran.

Means Vance knows which way the wind is blowing.

There’s no way he can win the Republican nomination as an Israel first-er

 

[Arash]

US government claim they "uncovered a plot" by a 24 man "Team of Assassins and Agents" that were attempting to attack the White House with Suicide Drones during the UFC event and force the crowd to run into "Prepared Sniper positions" and mown them down







lets see if they blame us for this supposed "Plot" Lol

That process is much similar go what happened in Iran during the 12 days war

 

[KAL-EL]

This is what many people do not realize. The USA's submarine fleet is unmatched, in a league of its own. It is truly a power given to the USA by Allah Almighty!

Amen to that!

 

[Meengla]

Wow. JD Vance personally went to Megyn Kelly show. While the first half of this short video is Vance avoiding direct answers, starting this point, he shows where he stood and still stands: Against the Israel Firsters about this war on Iran.

I just saw the rest of the video from that time marker onwards and wow! It is a window to Vance's view of this war, which is totally against the Israeli and the Israel Firsters view. Bravo, Vance, Bravo!! May Trump sees wisdom like you are seeing or Trump just resigns and you become the POTUS tomorrow!

 

[Oscar]

This is what many people do not realize. The USA's submarine fleet is unmatched, in a league of its own. It is truly a power given to the USA by Allah Almighty!

It very much is - it is LEAPfrogs ahead of anyone anywhere and will remain to be.
From metallurgy, materials on tiles, to the reactors - nothing comes close.

 

[Master Chief]

Trump is genuinely pissed at Israel. This alone must go some of the way towards explaining several of his statements today, including my personal favourite:

"Without the United States, there would be no Israel. Without me, there would be no Israel, because no other president was willing to do what I did".

(That second part by the way is exactly what @Meengla has been saying on this thread for weeks - makes me wonder if Trump is watching!).

Then for Trump to claim that "I never cared about regime change in Iran" is a pretty tough pill for Bibi to swallow.

Israel has emerged a "liability" at best, and at worst, "a saboteur" of American interests. This harm to their political capital is a big issue for them, no matter what frontline gains they have made in Lebanon or against Iranian nuclear ambitions.

Iran's absolute best strategy in the decade to come is to continue an informational war against the Israeli narrative in the west. It's time for Americans to wake up and clearly state that Israel no longer gets a carte blanche to do as it pleases.

 

[VCheng]

Iran's absolute best strategy in the decade to come is to continue an informational war against the Israeli narrative in the west. It's time for Americans to wake up and clearly state that Israel no longer gets a carte blanche to do as it pleases.

The first step I keep suggesting is to deprive Israel of the fuel they use to inflame US opinions, and stop the totally unnecessary Iranian death chants.

 

[Shags101]

It’s funny really funny it’s starting to look like jd Vance is over Bibi and his lobbyist these few “slip of a tongues” could be meaningless but you start looking at the right wing media in Israel they are now going after Trump and his people they were heroic yesterday and villains today.
I don’t like Trump I wish he stayed on the Apprentice but he’s here and we have to deal with him for a few more years unless old age catches up to him or something else but the one thing we know about Trump you say one bad word about him and he will turn on you and your people in a heartbeat he doesn’t care about people all he cares about is himself and how much richer he can get let’s pray Bibi or one of his cronies pushes the envelope