Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[hussain0216]

I haven't met the white people that some of you Pakistanis on PDF have.

They are dangerous,

Iran for all its limitations is FREE

I'm not saying China and Russia are better, what I am saying is Iran should be looking for ways to make itself capable of fulfilling it's needs with support, but the west is infiltrated with Zionists and neo cons

 

[ResurgentIran2]

You are Such a disgusting Sino And Russophobe Westoid that you would rather Iran to pivot with the same scum who have killed Millions of Iranians by started multiple wars against Iran going back to WW I, instead of Russia and China who have helped Iran out targeting U.S forces VIA access to their Military Satellites and bought our sanctioned oil. Keep dreaming.

Gentlemen, lets not fight amongst ourselves over such matters. We need to pursue whatever is in Irans interests, without being ideological about it. For now, Iran might be best served by closer relations with Russia and China rather than the West. But that could also change over time. There are no permanent adversaries, only permanent interests.

Remember the saying:
Neither East nor West. Only Iran!

 

[Persian Gulf]

Bibi can agree to a ceasefire but a full withdrawal from south Lebanon is impossible for him to agree to without a political agreement

at most, he can instruct the IDF to withdraw back to a smaller 'security zone' in south Lebanon, but even that is unlikely

 

[HAIDER]

Difficult times ahead for Israel. They have no justification of stealing Lebanon land. No doubt Lebanese Christians are comfortable with this invasion and Shia population is buffer zone between Israel and rest of Lebanon.

 

[ShapurII]

You are Such a disgusting Sino And Russophobe Westoid that you would rather Iran to pivot with the same scum who have killed Millions of Iranians by started multiple wars against Iran going back to WW I, instead of Russia and China who have helped Iran out targeting U.S forces VIA access to their Military Satellites and bought our sanctioned oil. Keep dreaming.

F*ck off. Your commie lovers, i.e. the Russians and the Chinese won't even spit on your sorry mozlem asses or be kind enough to you to use lubrication before screwing you as usual, as they have been doing so for the last 18 years at least. Keep whoring for them, shargh geda.

What military satellite photos? Since when commercial sat photos that can be purchased online for assessment are military grade? Since when 20cm resolution is military grade?

If Iran had access to real time sat data, do you think over a thousand missiles that Iran fired during the war would kill only 10 American soldiers? One strike by the IRIAF on Camp Buhering killed 5. Iran had no access to real time sat data. That's why the number of US deaths in the war is so pathetically low that even terrorist groups could've done better.

 

[BananaRepublic]

IRGC-Navy: due to violations of the ceasefire MOU in Lebanon, the Strait of Hormoz is closed

"Due to the blatant breach and violation by the United States of the first clause of the ceasefire agreement, and in response to the continuous and relentless violations of the ceasefire by the Zionist regime in southern Lebanon, the merciless killing and displacement of hundreds of thousands of oppressed people of this land, and also considering the failure of the Zionist occupying forces to withdraw from southern Lebanon, it is declared that the Strait of Hormuz will be closed to vessel traffic."

We need the “US perspective” on this!

Can someone pls open a thread?

 

[BananaRepublic]

Ive been posting about this for months, it was always the economy


The U.S only had a month or so to win the war

And when the Iranian people didn't rise up, it was over


What stop further action, isn't a lack of bloodthirst by the U.S, it's the massive economic fallout

Now is the time to go after Israel

Between China and Japan dumping US debt - and Iran pricing Muslim oil in a basket of currencies - US economic crash is inevitable.

Remember, only 25 years separated zenith of the British empire and its fall.

 

[ShapurII]

They are dangerous,

Iran for all its limitations is FREE

I'm not saying China and Russia are better, what I am saying is Iran should be looking for ways to make itself capable of fulfilling it's needs with support, but the west is infiltrated with Zionists and neo cons

Define free. Iran cannot even trade normally with the world. You guys really live in your own world of selective facts. The US and Israel can launch a new war on Iran any time they see fit and force Iran to accept a ceasefire when they get tired of war. Iran has been cornered, yet you guys pretend that Iran has emerged as the dominant regional power and soon will force its terms on the United States.

Russia is Zionist to the core. I don't understand why people think Russia is some sort of counter balance against the Zionist West. Zionist Jews were the core of the Bolsheviks. Putin himself is a Zionist. Nearly every influential politician in Israel is a Slav and you guys think Russia will side with Iran and is better than the Zionist West?

As for China, I don't understand why you guys don't get it. Trump says China didn't help Iran. China says they didn't help Iran. From what we see in the war, China hasn't helped Iran. Even the IRGC has not even once claimed that they have received help from China. Yet some clowns here like that shargh-geda fool think otherwise.

 

[mangekyo]

Dude, I have been saying that for years.

When the 2008 UNSC sanctions kicked in, China was the first country to close the bank accounts of Iranian students in its country. Iranian students received a 2-week notice to empty their bank accounts or else they said they would confiscate them. Not just the bank accounts of Iranian businessmen, or the official bank accounts of our central bank or related government entities, but even the accounts of Iranian students studying in China!

Guess what? Before Europe sanctions Iranian students, Russia butted in and published a list of university courses that Iranians were not allowed to participate in. Russia banned Iranian students from studying nuclear engineering and nuclear physics in Russia. They also refused to accept Iranian PhD admissions for topics that could be of dual use for Iran's nuclear and missile program.

Even in this war, Russia and China not only didn't do jack shit for Iran but actively undermined Iran's efforts to increase oil and gas prices to end the war on our terms. China nearly stopped its oil imports and Russia increased its oil output and exports. Thanks to that Zionist bitch Zelensky, Russia couldn't benefit as much as they planned to. Hopefully, Ukraine will hit more Russian energy assets.

People here who talk about Iran moving towards China after this war are delusional. Absolutely foolish, if you ask me. If anything, if Iran has truly won this war as some people claim here, we should settle our differences with the US after this war and pivot towards the US and Europe and leave the Russians and the Chinese to their fate. If we are the true winners of this war, there is no reason for us not to normalize our relations with the US and import high quality American and European goods for the right price, instead of importing Chinese goods with inflated black market prices.

Agree with the first parts. But how do you suggest we settle our differences with the US? You want us to surrender to the Zionists?

 

[Kyussis]

F*ck off. Your commie lovers, i.e. the Russians and the Chinese won't even spit on your sorry mozlem asses or be kind enough to you to use lubrication before screwing you as usual, as they have been doing so for the last 18 years at least. Keep whoring for them, shargh geda.

What military satellite photos? Since when commercial sat photos that can be purchased online for assessment are military grade? Since when 20cm resolution is military grade?

If Iran had access to real time sat data, do you think over a thousand missiles that Iran fired during the war would kill only 10 American soldiers? One strike by the IRIAF on Camp Buhering killed 5. Iran had no access to real time sat data. That's why the number of US deaths in the war is so pathetically low that even terrorist groups could've done better.

Russia hasn't been communist since 1990. Idiot!!! If you think the U.S is honest about its casualty numbers you are an even bigger moron than I thought. I guess you would believe everything your White savior tells you, huh?

P.S to call an Iranian Sharg geda is funny because Iran is in the east. I know that hurts Europhile westoid Garb Gedda's like you to hear since you think you are some kind of white Arian race, LOL!!! News flash idiot, no white will spit on your None blond, melanin having skin because to them you are lower than the dirt on their white feet!!!

 

[HAIDER]

F*ck off. Your commie lovers, i.e. the Russians and the Chinese won't even spit on your sorry mozlem asses or be kind enough to you to use lubrication before screwing you as usual, as they have been doing so for the last 18 years at least. Keep whoring for them, shargh geda.

What military satellite photos? Since when commercial sat photos that can be purchased online for assessment are military grade? Since when 20cm resolution is military grade?

If Iran had access to real time sat data, do you think over a thousand missiles that Iran fired during the war would kill only 10 American soldiers? One strike by the IRIAF on Camp Buhering killed 5. Iran had no access to real time sat data. That's why the number of US deaths in the war is so pathetically low that even terrorist groups could've done better.

you have valid argument, but let's move on in respectable way

 

[Flotilla]

Of course they are. I am a great admirer of the Chinese culture. I have never downplayed the achievements or the importance of the Chinese civilization.

I'm just saying that just because China is growing, it doesn't mean that the US and Europe will turn into Africa the moment their places are reversed.

That aside, building an empire takes more than just science and technology. The US inherited an empire from the British. I mean look at us, we are communicating with each other in English right now. Can you imagine us communicate in Chinese in the near future? I don't think that's possible in the next 5-10 years at all.

The US is not an empire because it has the lead in science and technology. That's just one aspect of their superiority in recent decades. There's more. It's more than money and knowledge.

As for Iran, most of our infrastructure either dates back to the time of the Shah, or before 2008 sanctions. The rest of our infrastructure has been built domestically with our own engineers.

Don't lie yourself.
Not only China gave Irán raw material and political support in international arenas like UN, but also half of the agreement came from them.

Do you realize that the Agreement came days after US Donald Trump went to visit Xi Jingping?. Seems obvious that China warned US that they will continue supporting Irán.

Even some international press said that they suggested to leave supporting Taiwán just to rid of Irán to them and Israel. And Xi was explicit.

China has been backing Pakistán from the day one. Without China Irán would be still engaged against to peer adversaries with a certain fate of defeat.

 

[ShapurII]

Agree with the first parts. But how do you suggest we settle our differences with the US? You want us to surrender to the Zionists?

These people say that the United States has surrendered to Iran. Well, what does surrender mean? We should be able to dictate our terms to the US now, no?

Anyway, back to reality, if Iran truly survives the war with the US, and the US understands that 20 years of planning to overthrow the Iranian system has failed and it is not possible, eventually they will have to settle our differences with Iran. That's what they did with China in the 80s. The US puts pressure on Iran because they think that they will eventually defeat Iran through maximum pressure and war. Once they know this plan does not work, they will choose a more rational path.

Russia hasn't been communist since 1990. Idiot!!! If you think the U.S is honest about its casualty numbers you are an even bigger moron than I thought. I guess you would believe everything your White savior tells you, huh?

Russia wasn't truly communist even before the fall of the Soviet Union. But that's not the point. The point is that these ex-communist countries like China and Russia have never helped any of the weaker countries associated with them grow.

I call them communists because it pisses them off, and it pisses people like you off. You can call them the Eastern bloc, if that please you.

I remember how fools like you claimed that the US had lost tens of people, even hundreds, in Ain al-Assad. A few months later, Gen. Salami said that they had mercy on American soldiers, refuting all your claims about large number of deaths in Ain al-Assad. If you think we have killed more than 15 American soldiers, you should prove it. Neither the IRGC, nor the US or other media claim a higher figure.

You guys even claimed Iran had taken POWs during the war. What happened to that by the way?

 

[Jango007]

Interesting :

 

[Immortals]