Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Yasser76]

America is far away that by the time their products reach the consumers the cost almost doubles due to long transit.

Global food distribution is a funny thing my friend, US farmers mass produce at scale and can undercut many countries own domestic farmers.

I was talking to a workmate over from NZ, basically shocked price of NZ Lamb in London was cheaper then it was on Auckland!

 

[Watandar]

Vance says if Iranian frozen assets are released they will be used to buy products from U.S. farmers

Yes I was expecting that. It's a common tactic of the American govt and makes the transaction politically saleable as well. Reminds me of the 1990's when Pakistan paid for F16 planes which were subsequently blocked by sanctions. After some years Pakistan received soybeans and other agricultural products worth the same as what it had paid for the F16s.

It is still a better path for Iran than having the funds frozen , or worse awarded to someone else, provided the US govt actually delivers. Iran getting the actual cash back in its hands is a very remote possibility.

 

[sutton9999]

So Vance is basically saying that Any Iranian asset to be unfrozen would be conditional and would only be used to buy food items from american companies / vendors.

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So I think for Iran, the major thing is not unfreezing of frozen assets and accounts but major thing would be the sanctions to be lifted completely. So they can export their oil and gas freely to whole world in open global market. That would make billions anyways and they can use that money in anyway they want.

making billions of dollars,

Doesn't matter where these dollar accounts are held, USA can freeze them at any moment.

Iran shall demand gold bar.
By the way, Russia paid 1/4 million dollars worth of gold for each Iranian kamikaze drone.

 

[Immortals]

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[Immortals]

Vance says if Iranian frozen assets are released they will be used to buy products from U.S. farmers

As I said, a big beautiful BOEING order is coming for Iran using SOME of the frozen funds. This will allow Vance and Trump to sell the deal to Americans and Congress.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION ON THIS MATTER

 

[Yasser76]

As I said, a big beautiful BOEING order is coming for Iran using SOME of the frozen funds. This will allow Vance and Trump to sell the deal to Americans and Congress.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION ON THIS MATTER

Yeah, would not surprise me, will go down very well in the US and Iran badly needs moderen airliners. As I mentioned, no reason Iran Air cannot take on the big 3 GCC carriers.

200 737s and 100 787s will make Trump very happy and it also provides him good ammo against the Zionists who are attacking him right now on this deal. It is not a stupid move by Iran, they have driven a wedge between US and Israel, no one has done that in last 40 years, they should capitalise on this.

If US can now sell weapons to Iraq, Vietnam and India who were all enemies at one point, no reason in a few years, if trust is permanently established, we cannot see modern US weapons in Iran (again)

 

[ShapurII]

As I said, a big beautiful BOEING order is coming for Iran using SOME of the frozen funds. This will allow Vance and Trump to sell the deal to Americans and Congress.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION ON THIS MATTER

How big could it be to convince the Congress? $10 billion at most?
I don't think the US needs $10 billion that badly.

 

[BananaRepublic]

Knowing what IAEA chief said before the war started, Iran is inviting them back? Why ?

IAEA chief says "major issues" with Iran's nuclear program could linger after war. Here are highlights from his CBS News interview.

The United Nations' top nuclear watchdog, IAEA Director-General Rafael Grossi, told CBS News that Iran still has the technical ability to restart its nuclear program, even though U.S. military strikes dented the program.

www.cbsnews.com

Thoughts on why would they agree?

It’s just going back to the JCPOA.

Iran is not conceding anything new.

 

[Persian Gulf]

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[TAC]

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The same inspectors that were there under Obama accord, lol.

 

[BigMela2onin]

Vance says if Iranian frozen assets are released they will be used to buy products from U.S. farmers

Lots of US agricultural products aren't even legal for human consumption in EU. Some of the lowest quality food on Earth and covered in chemicals.

 

[BHAN85]

Yes I was expecting that. It's a common tactic of the American govt and makes the transaction politically saleable as well. Reminds me of the 1990's when Pakistan paid for F16 planes which were subsequently blocked by sanctions. After some years Pakistan received soybeans and other agricultural products worth the same as what it had paid for the F16s.

It is still a better path for Iran than having the funds frozen , or worse awarded to someone else, provided the US govt actually delivers. Iran getting the actual cash back in its hands is a very remote possibility.

Likely both things are true.

It's not a coincidence last meeting was in Switzerland and airplane landed in Zurich, full of banks. That part must be more hidden.

And the publicly disclosed thing, approved by AIPAC, it's the sell of USA food to Iran.

Ruling elites, who approved mou, don't want tons of soybeans, they want money and buy luxuries.

Anyway money saved in buy food, can be used in whatever Iran ruling elite will want.

 

[BHAN85]

Iran airplane landed in Zurich and meeting was in Geneva, so guess what

Zurich
Largest number of international banking institutions.
Strong for private banking, corporate accounts, and wealth management.

Geneva
Major global private-banking center.
Particularly strong for international clients, diplomats, commodity traders, and wealth management.
Often considered Zurich's closest rival for international banking

 

[unconventional]

Even the April ceasefire was against the Israeli wishes and this is hugely against Israel. No questions about that.
As to the Epstein Files, maybe they are a factor. Maybe not. However, if they are then they are the last card for the Israelis to play to influence Trump and, given Trump's ability to get away with murder, he may call the leaked pics and videos as 'Deep Fake' and punish Israel very badly for trying to sabotage him personally.

Not sure about this.

Although the April ceasefire was against Netanyahu’s wishes, and even these talks are, I would not say that the April ceasefire and this are against Israel. Trump (or any other administration) would never do anything against Israel.

Why isn’t the April ceasefire or these current talks against Israel? Because if Israel and the US were fighting a long war against Iran, with Israel’s (and the US’s) limited number of missile defence systems (compared to Iran’s far greater number of ballistic and cruise missiles), Israel would be facing an existential threat.

These talks are just fact facing, that the victor of the war (Iran) has to be given big concessions. But that comes at the expense of IAEA inspectors on their soil that will certainly ensure their program is strictly used for civilian purposes (enrichment levels strictly capped at 3.67%, and their HEU stockpile diluted or destroyed). That will protect Israel at least from a nuclear threat that was existential for them. The other threats from Iran (ballistic missile attacks, support to non state actors) are not existential to them.

This is similar to the JCPOA, it was never against Iran, it was always in the interest of Israel that Iran was able to enrich for civilian purposes only.

If the US actively blocked all defensive or offensive weapons sales to Israel, I’d say that would be against Israel, because Israel on its own cannot sustain itself or its wars.

 

[krash]

Arab countries are so against Tehran, because Iranians are Shia.

Not trying to be sectarian here.

Not quite. Both, the Saudis and the Iranians, have had a decades long MO of attempting to spread political influence in the region under the garb of sectarian/ideological propagation and hence have stood opposed to the other. They've done it in each other's countries along with others, such as Pakistan. It's just a tool and nothing more. Otherwise, there are plenty of Sunni in Palestine and Shia in Kashmir.

Are you Indian?

Wannabe Iranian. Result of the above.