Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Fatman17]

 

[Meengla]

Finally lost it. Israel's nukes will inevitably now start getting on the global agenda. If for one second they seriously consider this it will be the end of Israel. .

Maybe there is some truth to the Israeli 'Samson Option'. There is not only a secular, national will to survive in Israel, like all nations have, but there is the Messianic zeal for the End Times in Israel and its Christian Zionists like Mike Huckabee.
While I don't see how Israel can survive the dangers it is facing and creating more and more, I don't see how the Israelis are not going to bring down the region when they would face the inevitable.
PS. Ironically, as much as the Islamic world is accused of 'radicals' by the West, I don't see any major desire to engineer the End Times / Armageddon / Qayamat.

 

[Arash]

Time to unite. At least those that want to unite. At a minimum Pakistan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Turkey need to cooperate intensively. I hope Egypt can join too and sense prevails.

Pan Islamic....... I really wonder.
Iran + Pakistan + Qatar yes
Turkey still does business with Israel
Saudis & Egypt are working actively with the U.S.
Then the UAE, Kuwait, Jordan... it would be a real joke...

 

[hussain0216]

Pan Islamic....... I really wonder.
Iran + Pakistan + Qatar yes
Turkey still does business with Israel
Saudis & Egypt are working actively with the U.S.
Then the UAE, Kuwait, Jordan... it would be a real joke...

Your right

But change needs to start somewhere


At one point UK, France, Germany were all enemies


If we keep waiting, we will keep losing



It will happen regardless of what anyone thinks, we are at a historical moment,
It's just a question of how quickly will it happen and how quickly the rest of the Muslim world will fall in line
And what the rest of the world will do to try and stop it

 

[Yasser76]

Your right

But change needs to start somewhere


At one point UK, France, Germany were all enemies


If we keep waiting, we will keep losing



It will happen regardless of what anyone thinks, we are at a historical moment,
It's just a question of how quickly will it happen and how quickly the rest of the Muslim world will fall in line
And what the rest of the world will do to try and stop it

Israel must rue the day that Pak developed nukes.

If we had not, Muslim world would be at their mercy...

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

About time!
Every bit of meddling that is instigated is hosted regionally by someone... either dumb, aloof or bought.
The trade routes and corridors need to be revived... Pakistan has people with names of Iranian cities and who know when some of them came... Shirazi, Isfahani etc. Others with Turk ancestors Chugtai, Beg etc... peppered with Arabs, Afghans, Indians...
Pre colonial world had movement of goods, services and people... post or neo colonial does not... people are stuck and bound financially to the same power centers... who've devised currencies of trade as their... and theirs alone. One where they control the tap... prosperity and prospects... sanction or cut off whosoever... attack with impunity... with laws in tow... ready to be amended as needed. And if not ... well who cares.

 

[maverick]

there should be a new thread opened up on economic prosperity between Iran and Pakistan and it possibilities to revive economies of both countries.
A gas pipeline which is still sitting and built by a rand and Pakistan portion needs to be completed is a starting point.
They will link between quetta and zahedan into Iran needs to be revived.
Lately BLA problem has gone down due to tough stance of Pakistan against Afghanistan, and also Indians being kicked out of Iran completely.
There’s a strong possibility of economic prosperity for the western region of Pakistan and eastern region of Iran. You do this piece which is ensuing in the region
Pakistan and Ron capitalize on bringing both nations together

 

[mangekyo]

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Face saving attempt by congress. They were low-key supporting the war from day one. Now that US lost and they see Trump are making concessions, they’re trying to make it look like they were never on board.

 

[mangekyo]

Pan Islamic....... I really wonder.
Iran + Pakistan + Qatar yes
Turkey still does business with Israel
Saudis & Egypt are working actively with the U.S.
Then the UAE, Kuwait, Jordan... it would be a real joke...

Ones a hoe, always a hoe. We can’t trust these countries to suddenly become loyal. They will backstab as without any hesitation.

 

[hussain0216]

Face saving attempt by congress. They were low-key supporting the war from day one. Now that US lost and they see Trump are making concessions, they’re trying to make it look like they were never on board.

This gives trump a OUT also

Same with the U.S we a whole

They can say, "oh we were going to humiliate Iran if it wasn't for Congress"

 

[hussain0216]

Ones a hoe, always a hoe. We can’t trust these countries to suddenly become loyal. They will backstab as without any hesitation.

You've got to start somewhere, to reduce the rivalry and tension

A opportunity has risen, it's time to take it

 

[Meengla]

While there is gloom and doom in Israel and among Israel Firsters of America, the PM of Pakistan Shehbaz Sharif awards the visiting Iranian President Pezeshkian an Honorary Fellowship as cardiac surgeon.
A simple ceremony with much joy.

"Prime Minister Muhammad Shehbaz Sharif Confers Honorary CPSP Fellowship upon Iranian President Dr. Masoud PezeshkianPrime Minister Muhammad Shehbaz Sharif conferred the Honorary Fellowship of the College of Physicians and Surgeons Pakistan (CPSP) in the field of Cardiac Surgery upon the President of the Islamic Republic of Iran, Dr. Masoud Pezeshkian, during a special ceremony in Islamabad.The prestigious honour was awarded in recognition of President Pezeshkian’s distinguished contributions to medicine, healthcare, and cardiac surgery, as well as his lifelong dedication to public service and human welfare."

 

[Master Chief]

Mario Nawfal is pushing some odd narrative about the recent meeting in Switzerland (e.g. thwarted assassination attempts).

I'd rather not post any links to his nonsense.

I trust we are still in agreement here that Mario Nawfal is an unreliable click baiter?

 

[maverick]

Mario Nawfal is pushing some odd narrative about the recent meeting in Switzerland (e.g. thwarted assassination attempts).

I'd rather not post any links to his nonsense.

I trust we are still in agreement here that Mario Nawfal is an unreliable click baiter?

His post is spreading like a wild fire. Not sure its veracity.

 

[PakistanLVR]

The Zionists are peddling the Sunni Jihad a lot lately.

They have many "familiars" in the Muslim community who are surfaced-level Muslims but have been spewing pure hatred on Islam and Muslim since 9/11. All of its tied back to Jews. They gained a huge audience and were able to expand their influence in the West.

• Daniel Pipes
  • Founder of the Middle East Forum.
  • Focused on political Islam, security issues, and Middle East affairs.
  • Supporters see him as a serious scholar of Islamism; critics accuse him of promoting suspicion toward Muslims.
• Pamela Geller
  • One of the most prominent anti-Islam activists in the U.S.
  • Known for campaigns against mosque projects and for organizing controversial events related to depictions of Muhammad.
• Robert Spencer
  • Founder of Jihad Watch.
  • Frequently collaborated with Geller.
  • Criticized by many scholars for portraying Islam itself as inherently problematic.
• Ayaan Hirsi Ali
  • Critic of certain Islamic practices and doctrines.
  • More difficult to categorize because her work also focuses on women's rights and her own experiences.
• Irshad Manji
  • Unlike Geller or Spencer, Manji generally argued for reform within Islam rather than opposition to Islam itself.
  • Advocated what she called a more liberal and self-critical interpretation of the faith.
  • Lesbian who wants to legitimate LGBT in the Islamic theocracy
• Asra Nomani
  • Muslim reform advocate who criticized aspects of conservative Islamic practice.
  • Often aligned with reformist rather than anti-Muslim activism, though many Muslim organizations strongly disagreed with her positions.
  • Led prayers as a woman in order to undermine fundamental Islam.

Activists, writers, and commentators

• Robert Spencer
• David Horowitz
• Frank Gaffney
• Brigitte Gabriel
• Geert Wilders
• Tommy Robinson
• Bat Ye'or
• Douglas Murray
• Mark Steyn