Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

unconventional said:
so does this seem to favor Iran or the US?
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If you feel that the MoU is enough for Iran to declare victory, then congratulations.

I have no need to challenge what you have decided for yourself.
 
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A good vid on how the US war against Iran ends in a disaster.

There is a saying never send a car technician to repair your house roof. Wars should be led by army generals, not by dumb politicians.

The positive: Trump will not start any new war soon. Same for his comrade Putin. Both think themselves they are the greatest military leaders. Putin will not start a new war soon.

 
ParthianLord said:
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An an Israeli site is reporting that American aircrafts in Ben Gurion Airport are being moved away; they were disrupting the normal civilian travel and were hurting Israel.
Definitely, a retrenchment by the Americans from the region.
 
Meengla said:
An an Israeli site is reporting that American aircrafts in Ben Gurion Airport are being moved away; they were disrupting the normal civilian travel and were hurting Israel.
Definitely, a retrenchment by the Americans from the region.
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But they still keep 47 refuelers, from 75 initially. Why?

A very visible picture for the Israelis who enter and exit the country.

Israel has asked to remove more, but it seems USA has another plan for coming months

By the other side there are still 2 aircraft carriers near to Iran.
 
BHAN85 said:
But they still keep 47 refuelers, from 75 initially. Why?

A very visible picture for the Israelis who enter and exit the country.

Israel has asked to remove more, but it seems USA has another plan for coming months

By the other side there are still 2 aircraft carriers near to Iran.
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Would not be surprised now if they are consolidating all refuellimg assets they had on Qatar, UAE and Saudi intro Israel.
 
BHAN85 said:
But they still keep 47 refuelers, from 75 initially. Why?
A very visible picture for the Israelis who enter and exit the country.
Israel has asked to remove more, but it seems USA has another plan for coming months
By the other side there are still 2 aircraft carriers near to Iran.
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Yasser76 said:
Would not be surprised now if they are consolidating all refuellimg assets they had on Qatar, UAE and Saudi intro Israel.
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Of course the Americans are going to keep a significant regional threat to Iran until and unless a final 'Deal' is signed. It is part of a carrot and stick approach and makes sense from America's perspective. However, launching a frontal attack on Iran like what happened starting Feb. 28 is unlikely at least in near future.
 
Meengla said:
Of course the Americans are going to keep a significant regional threat to Iran until and unless a final 'Deal' is signed. It is part of a carrot and stick approach and makes sense from America's perspective. However, launching a frontal attack on Iran like what happened starting Feb. 28 is unlikely at least in near future.
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If "some" of the the PGCC have finally delivered the message to the USA that their bases cannot be used anymore in any new attacks, then that is "progress".

The question is how much of the airspace is now closed to the USA. Saudi is the significant one in that respect. The corridor over Syria and Iraq is still open to Israel and the USA.

Iran needs to find a solution to the USN problem as all its missiles have proven to be ineffective against the USN so far(some lessons in their for Pakistan too).
 
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this was a fun interview

Pravin: ISI is a powerful agency on the same level as Mossad

Mario: Oh really?.. I did not think Pakistan had a good intelligence agency

Pravin : No Mario, they are good since 1948 they had plenty of good experince

Mario: Oh dear I was very sympathetic Imran Khan and his issues.. I take it back and Pakistanzindad !...

(of course I paraphrased it )


watch it is was good fun...

 
Ali_Baba said:
If "some" of the the PGCC have finally delivered the message to the USA that their bases cannot be used anymore in any new attacks, then that is "progress".
The question is how much of the airspace is now closed to the USA. Saudi is the significant one in that respect. The corridor over Syria and Iraq is still open to Israel and the USA.
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Change is happening and it will take time to upend a decades old security order in the Middle East which has been led by America. But we can already see that the American bases in the GCC countries close to Iran have a greatly diminished value: What good are they within striking distance of the abundant shorter range Iranian missiles when the personnel would run to the nearby hotels for safety? So the Americans have to deploy farther from Iran, thus giving Iran more 'strategic depth' in case of future attacks.

And strategic depth is extremely important in case of any war between Israel and Iran. Thus far, Israel has been spared much more damage because of the distance. And in future, attacking from safer distances in north Arabian Sea, from Jordan, from Israel give Iran more time to prepare to defend themselves. Plus attacking from long distances is costly too.
 
LC150 said:
this was a fun interview

Pravin: ISI is a powerful agency on the same level as Mossad

Mario: Oh really?.. I did not think Pakistan had a good intelligence agency

Pravin : No Mario, they are good since 1948 they had plenty of good experince

Mario: Oh dear I was very sympathetic Imran Khan and his issues.. I take it back and Pakistanzindad !...

(of course I paraphrased it )


watch it is was good fun...

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NGL I want to slap the sh*t out of this Lebanese twink. Too much involved in internal affairs of Pakistan.
 
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