Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Trump says Hormuz blockade against Iran reinstated​

Trump says the US is “reinstating” a blockade on Iran in the Strait of Hormuz and will charge ships for safe passage

“USA will be known as the Guardian of the Hormuz Strait” the US president wrote on Truth Social, “but will be reimbursed at rate of 20% on all cargo shipped.”
 
Flotilla said:
British people are extremely stupid.

They got outside of the EU because they hated UE burocracy and agenda.

They got a drop of 4.5% gross national rent just to adopt US international agenda.

Saudis at least got a donkey for King by divine right, but British people choosed theirs democratically.

They did the same with Palestine Action just to understand that maybe 70% of British people still support Palestine Action.

And I am pretty sure another 60 or more pertentage of British people have better oppinion of IRGC than US armed force.

These contradictions will grind British Kingdom in few years.

Anyway you can see similar trends in France or another parts of Europe. What a European patriot can still be supporting US?. Just a stupid.
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We in the UK have an Israel first lobby in the same way that the USA has this lobby. In the USA they call it AIPAC, here in the UK there are lots of groups. Take for example “Friends Of Israel” as an example in the UK. The vocalisation of pointing out these groups and their influence on the British government isnot as loud in the UK as is for AIPAC in the USA and something we Brits need to highlight more frequently.
 
Hayabusa said:
Mahan Air flight landing in al-Hodeidah International Airport is quite a big of a deal. It basically dismisses the decade long air blockade by Saudi Arabia. This shifts the balance of power and proves the coalition doesn't have absolute air dominance anymore.

Iran also shows that it can establish a direct air corridor right next to the Red Sea chokepoint and this may change the chess game in that region for logistics and weapons supplies.
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This is one single plane though. I am not sure such inferences should be made from one single event.
 
Raj-Hindustani said:
Not again. This is so frustrating.

Another unnecessary war, imposed by the USA. It's ordinary people who end up paying the highest price for this.
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Fatherland is to blame, along with their assets in USA, not ordinary "un-sponsored" Americans.
 
shapurzolaktaf said:
Yeah Iran denied the news by firing missiles, you did not follow the news I guess?
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That was and is hardliners. Your government has no control over them. Lets wait for your official elected government officials deny the news. Until then, Iran is aggressor and anyone wishing to burn or punish Saudi/Qatar are as delusional as those IRGC who started this whole mess by firing missiles on Qatar/Saudi ships and then also declare Saudis an aggressor if and when they retaliate.
 
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Pakistan First said:
Honestly, It was a mistake by Iran by hitting commercial ships just because they used different route in SOH. Nobody would accept Iran tolling the straits anyways. They would rather accept the strait to be closed but never to be in control of Iran and paying it for passage.

The negotiations were going on, Blockade on Iranian ports was lifted, Iran was already negotiating for sanctions relief and possibly assets to be unfrozen. But attacking the commercial ships changed everything.

More importantly, Iran had all the support from the world (atleast overwhelming public support even from the western countries) because Iran was attacked unprovoked and Iran was only defending itself. But attacking commercial ships during ceasefire is not "defending itself". World and its people hate to see oil prices going up because of Iran trying to control international waterway. After these attacks many NATO countries condemn Iran. UK proscribed IRGC as terror organisation. NATO also says US had every right to respond. Its same NATO which declined to participate in US/Israel war and Trump was furious on it.

Also if war prolongs then Iran has already played all its cards, there's nothing much left to play. While US can bring more and more assets. US knows Iran do not have any air power or naval power. US warships are simply immune to Iranian coastal missiles.

IMHO, Iran should have taken the ceasefire / MoU as a victory and should have avoided hitting commercial ships. It needed time and money to build its capabilities before restarting the war.
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I will remind you and others that Israel broke the terms of the MoU by killing Lebanese and occupying Lebanese lands.

Everything else that has come to pass this last week is a distraction and/or a consequence for/of Tel Aviv's actions.
 
Immortals said:
Won’t hold up in any court let alone reality. US cannot charge on a waterway it has no claims over.

What ship is going to pay 20% of its cargo value to cross? Where is the margin for the seller let alone ship operator?

So US is charging 20x what Iran was charging. Hilarious.

It’s clear Trump is running out of ideas and is becoming desperate. When Trump isn’t desperate and thinks he has the cards he is actually quiet (see lead up to Iran war and pulling out of JCPOA)
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The bigger and more immediate problem is the blockade on Iran
 
Bratva said:
That was and is hardliners. Your government has no control over them. Let wait for your official elected government officials deny the news. Until then, Iran is aggressor and anyone wishing to burn or punish Saudi/Qatar are as delusional as those IRGC who started this whole mess by firing missiles on Qatar/Saudi ships and then also declare Saudis an aggressor if and when they retaliate.
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Which one is the hardliner in the U.S.?
 
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Persian Gulf said:
The bigger and more immediate problem is the blockade on Iran
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Not really. Iran got its ships out. So it can start the clock all over again and has 2-3 months of time. Meanwhile US SPIR does not have 2-3 months of time.

Iran realized Trump was planning to keep a low intensity war till Mid terms then ramp back up. Now Iran is going to keep the war going till Mid terms and cause major losses to Republican Party. The same tactic they did to Jimmy Crater who lost his re election bid.

The short term possible compromise is that Iran-US jointly control Hormuz and share the fee. I’m not sure if hardliners in Iran will accept that, but Trump always floated that idea back in March.
 
American blockade and tolls on SoH are good but Iranian blockade and tolls on SoH are bad.

—❗️🇺🇸/🇮🇷 President Trump on Truth Social announces a blockade against Iran and 20% tolls on non-Iranian ships in Hormuz:

‘The Hormuz Strait is OPEN, and will remain OPEN, with or without Iran. We are reinstating the THE IRANIAN BLOCKADE, so named because it is only stopping Iran’s ships or customers from entering or leaving. All other countries will have fair and open use of the Strait.

The U.S.A. will be, from this point forward, known as “THE GUARDIAN OF THE HORMUZ STRAIT,” but as such, and as a matter of FAIRNESS, will be reimbursed, at the rate of 20% on all cargo shipped, for any and all costs necessary to do the job of providing safety and security to this very volatile section of the World. The process and formation will begin immediately. Thank you for your attention to this matter!’

@Middle_East_Spectator
 
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