Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Pakistan First said:
Wrong! Iran cannot destroy US warships. Iran has tried for sure but those missiles / drones got intercepted.

This is war! You don't let you enemy bomb you day and night. and you say you are not even hitting their warships deliberately which are being used actively against Iran.

Iran badly needs deterrence. US is hitting Iran whenever it wants. Iran needs to have capability to destroy its warships OR the aircrafts that are airborne. Without air power and naval power its a daunting task but with modern and sophisticated land based missiles it can be possible.

The "bases" you hit already for 50 days. US is not stupid to deploy its military in those bases next to Iran while its having war with Iran. Iran did the damage whatever it could in first phase of war. Now hitting those bases over and over again is meaningless and is clearly not deterring US and its clearly not working. Iran needs capabilities to hit aircrafts and warships only that will bring deterrence and stop US from aggression.
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Agree. It has always been the USAF and USN (and whatever air corps units the other services have) that have kept the foot on Iran's throat militarily. Iran would need some imaginative solutions.

Maybe a ground incursion could potentially play into Iranian hands, but US are holding off that for the time being.
 
There will door knocks will come soon . The drones hunting Americans in the streets of good old USA soon is around the corner . Never in history.
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Wingzero30 said:
He is unfortunately beholden to saudis and won't dare utter a word against them.
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It's a treaty, a signed, ratified and notarised binding agreement, which we are correct to honour. It doesn't make a difference whether it's with KSA or anyone else. Certain nations do breach treaties depending on their mood - such behaviour is not in Pakistani interests.

I suppose the missing information here is the actual terms of the agreement, which we can only speculate on.
 
Shags101 said:
Can’t be Jordanians said they took them all “out” looked a lot more than 4 by the way
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That base is toast . Ted Postal is proven to be right again . He says that the PAC 3 interception rate is less than 5%.
 
Oracle said:
Iran is evil twin of Israel.
Both Israel and Iran don't want peace.

REASON: IRAN Attacked civil ships because they were passing through Oman area.....? That's TERRORISM. Not self defence.


2nd war phase is due to Iran steps not US or Israel.
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You do understand that Iran has been attacked and a illegal war waged against it?
 
hussain0216 said:
You do understand that Iran has been attacked and a illegal war waged against it?
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2nd war phase is due to Iran steps not US or Israel.

that statement reads like an alternate reality post.

A number of posts back I put up all the MOU points the US did not meet, quite easy to de-bunk these claims.
 
Shags101 said:
Here’s something simple if America under Trump ever decided to use a nuclear weapon in this day and age one Iran would surrender because you can’t win against that but 2 if that did happen countries like china russia North Korea pakistan Israel and India wouldn’t hesitate to use theirs…….Trump is crazy and yes he filled up the pentagon with a bunch of yes men but never going to happen at least hopefully in my lifetime
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Agreed.. let's hope it's never used anywhere.

And yes Trump has a bunch of Yes Men surrounding him. And obviously I'm not privy to what they're telling him.

I doubt it's all about nuclear weapons to them as they know they'd be crossing a line they could never come back from

As it stands now the American people including myself are against this war and wanted to end immediately
 
lightning f57 said:
2nd war phase is due to Iran steps not US or Israel.

that statement reads like an alternate reality post.

A number of posts back I put up all the MOU points the US did not meet, quite easy to de-bunk these claims.
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Ist phase, 2nd phase

Buddy it's all due to the U.S being stupid enough to wage this war for the Zionists
 
SecularNationalist said:
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@Kyussis @Persian Gulf
Strait of Hormuz leverage be gone in the coming years. Isreal and UAE working together on that. You still think you don't need nuclear weapons for avoiding the full ground invasion? Either get the nuclear weapons or don't let UAE develop that oil transport infrastructure. Whenever they start developing it send missiles and drones.
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The magic solution UAE has is a pipeline. A pipeline within range of Iranian missiles and drones.
 
Iran 4- US 0
Amazing. Zero interception rate
It confirms one thing. If this is how degraded the level of A.D. is at 1000 km away, Almost everything launched from Iran towards PGCC results in direct hits . Zero interception rate .
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