Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

lightning f57 said:
2nd war phase is due to Iran steps not US or Israel.

that statement reads like an alternate reality post.

A number of posts back I put up all the MOU points the US did not meet, quite easy to de-bunk these claims.
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I honestly don’t remember the guy at all but he’s on my ignore list so enough said
 
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"Corsair" has always been a somewhat odd choice of nomenclature for American weaponry imho. A ww2 US fighter aircraft was also given this moniker.

A corsair is actually a pirate by definition. Must be those good guy Johnny Depp type of pirates then.
 
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Persian Gulf said:
Esfahan is in the centre of Iran not in the border somewhere

Dozens of people saw these planes and helicopters and even shot at them with pistols, so why can’t small manpad crews do the same?
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Because those aircraft are equipped with top notch DIRCM. No MANPADS can effectively harm them (in fact IRGC recovered very complex and super expensive IR laser jammers in gimball laser emitters).
Isfahan it is just 200 km away from iraqui south borders, and you saw them flying well under the radar horizon. That helped them to sneak in, but not allowed to sneak out.
So somebody even without the proper weaponry did very well his job.
 
KAL-EL said:
Agreed.. let's hope it's never used anywhere.

And yes Trump has a bunch of Yes Men surrounding him. And obviously I'm not privy to what they're telling him.

I doubt it's all about nuclear weapons to them as they know they'd be crossing a line they could never come back from

As it stands now the American people including myself are against this war and wanted to end immediately
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To much ego at this point funny thing is a few weeks ago he was bragging to news medias how he ended the war in 3 month but in reality he has accomplished nothing seriously he got to war happy with Venezuela and with the bombing in Iran during the 12 day war he thought jeez why do people say war is hard.
Here’s the thing America will dominate the skies can bomb relentlessly with minimal fear of casualties but unless they send boots to the ground war isn’t going to be won and if that happens ask the Israelis how easily it was to fight gazans and Hezbollah and this is a country that is bombing entire villages and cities to the ground and nobody waved a white flag…let’s assume American troops will fight more honorably than Israel and not try to exterminate entire populations
 

Oil inventories near critical levels warns analyst​

Markets are reacting to every “little skirmish” in the conflict between the US and Iran, says oil and gas specialist Cornelia Meyer.

“Within the next few months or few weeks, we need to see things getting back to normal,” Meyer told Al Jazeera, speaking from Bern, Switzerland.

Markets have not reacted more, however, because “we had people with inventories that they could draw from [even though] they’re close to tank bottom,” she said.

China – the new swing consumer – has imported so much less than it did before, Meyer added.

But markets are not predicting escalation because the US has midterms coming up, so they may not want a full-fledged war, said Meyer. Meanwhile, Iran has economic problems, so they may also not want a full-fledged war, she said.

“But what markets are not factoring in, is that we are close to tank bottom in the inventories, and what they’re also not factoring in, is this open and closed state of the Strait of Hormuz makes it very difficult for insurers to insure cargoes and ships,” said the analyst.

While many ships have left the strait, not many have entered, said Meyer.

The developed countries of the OECD will be able to manage another hit as they have still some inventories, but for developing countries, it will be “very bad”.
 

Control of Hormuz necessary to keep Iran’s enemies from using it ‘to make problems for Iranians’​

Iran has been compelled to attack its neighbours because the US is mounting attacks from these countries, the University of Tehran’s Mohammad Eslami says.

“The Iranians are defending themselves against US attacks. Some of our neighbours have allowed US military bases on their land,” he said.

Eslami said Iran wants the Strait of Hormuz to be open but will set the conditions for how it is used. “Iran sees the waterway as an instrument to re-establish relations with its neighbours and with European and Asian countries to end the illegal sanctions regime imposed on Tehran.”

As such, he added: “Iran cannot be isolated from Hormuz, and the Iranian position in the waterway can’t be ignored. Iran will not allow any other adversary to use this strait in order to make problems for the Iranians.”
 

Kuwait confronting hostile aerial targets​

Kuwait’s armed forces are currently “confronting hostile aerial targets within Kuwaiti airspace,” the army posted on social media.

“The General Staff of the Army notes that any explosion sounds, if heard, are the result of air defense systems intercepting hostile attacks. Everyone is requested to adhere to the security and safety instructions issued by the competent authorities.”
 
Well buckle up, this will continue atleast until the mid-terms, once trump becomes a lame duck well see if the Dems curtails his spending thereby stopping his foolish war or will bend the knee to Israel and go for round 3.
 
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