Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Hassan Al-Somal]

I respect Mr. Parsi a lot and I always pay attention to his remarks, but what I was referring to isn't something that's going to occur tomorrow or next week.

The US doesn't go in all at once. They have learned their lessons from Iraq, Afghanistan and Vietnam. Instead, they take small, calculated steps in executing their strategy for Iran. When I mention the US taking control of Iranian oil fields, it doesn't imply that American forces will physically seize the area by next Saturday. It simply indicates that they will eventually gain control over the wells, the flow of oil, the wealth, and the markets.

They might begin with one of the Iranian islands they consider strategic to capture and manage the Strait of Hormuz. After that, they could propose a phony ceasefire, a memorandum of understanding, or a multinational agreement to halt the conflict and observe how the Iranian leadership responds, while continuously adjusting their approach. There could also be internal strife in Tehran afterward, meaning a "civil war" in the higher echelons of Iranian decision-making circles.

Or, equally possible, intensified military actions by the IRGC, but the ultimate US aim is to seize Iranian wealth. Attack, block, cease, capture.

Trump explicitly stated that all Iranian wealth belongs to them - and I believe that his comment about Iranian civilization wasn't just a slip of the tongue either but a revelation of his true intentions.

In fact, he made the same statemens for months now:

“With a little more time, we can easily OPEN THE HORMUZ STRAIT, TAKE THE OIL, & MAKE A FORTUNE,” the US president wrote in a social media post on Friday.

What causes you to doubt your enemy when he explicitly reveals his intentions towards you?

Dismantling the Iranian union and state will naturally lead to control over Iranian resources; they will undoubtedly try to undermine Iran's unity. It would be foolish of them not to attempt this. The potential rewards are too tempting, and the return on investment is too high.

After a certain stage in the escalation/war events, even complete capitulation will not rescue our neighbors. I believe that the majority of Iranians recognize this danger, which is why even pro-IRI groups are beginning to oppose the existing leadership. They are too passive.

You all keep up with the ongoing battle daily but seem to overlook the larger picture.

One wonders what IRGC achieves by hitting those empty US bases in Kuwait and Bahrain?

 

[Watandar]

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[BigMela2onin]

Well not a bad deal if UAE guaranteed Iran that they won't help US or isreal by providing their land to attack Iran.

UAE drones attacked Bandar Abbas literally this morning.

 

[ShapurII]

Brother, please ignore him he is some illiterate troll. He didn't even know the difference between Luristan and confused it with the vulgar phrase for phallic objects in Punjabi which is pronounced with a "LO" and not "LU"... Luristan as anyone who has bothered to read a book (which that guy clearly hadn't) is named after the Lur people hence Luristan = Land of the Lur's.

This is the problem with some illiterate people who don't even know their own lingual roots and sit and watch Hindi movies all day, had he paid attention in school and read Urdu and Farsi to some basic degree and Pak Studies he wouldn't have tried to make that a joke.

Actually, I wasn't offended by his post at all. Different things in different languages can sound similar. Even though Pashto, Urdu and Persian are all very similar, but sometimes things like that happen.

I remember many years ago, a couple of Pakistani members laughed at the name "Gando", which is the name of a crocodile in Iran lol

You know the French player Jules Koundé? His surname is a very vulgar word for referring to homosexuals in Iran.

 

[Khorasan Black Flags]

These idiots cannot negotiate.

They accepted the ceasefire when oil was at $120 and U.S. economy looked like it was going to weaken. They believed that Trump had agreed to their “12 point” agreement.

Turned out 12 point agreements were never agreed too and both sides had their own agreement.

Then they came up with the MoU and believed the U.S. when they said they would let Iran manage Hormuz. Instead on Day 1 U.S. opened a lane in Oman and forced all ships to follow to go thru that lane thus rendering the Iranian lane redundant and worthless.

Now the idiots (Argachi, Qalibaf) want a 3RD chance to agree to another agreement that the U.S. won’t follow.

Either Iran goes for the nuke or it will end up being lied to. They made their redline Hormuz and now any backing off it would put Iran in a weaker position then if they just kept their mouth shut!

They traded away 'total victory' for a paltry sum of money from the UAE!

 

[Immortals]

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[SecularNationalist]

They won't do it unless they stab UAE in the back

What about desalination plants of other Arab nations Iran is attacking?

 

[delta2]

Boots on ground is out of the question.

They already tried a "boots on the ground" special op and it backfired heavily.

The USA, if this is a real war, is not going to leave Iran alone before it causes a significant damage to the Iranians and itself suffers casualties like in Vietnam.

If this is just a plot for Trump & Associates to make billions of $$ from speculation and market manipulation, then obviously there is not going to be a ground invasion.

But what if Trump is promised another $10 Billion? This guy only wants money.

 

[Lulldapull]

Gents the destruction of the Russian military in Ukraine (multiple times) has been a nasty wakeup call for me. And likewise how the wily Iranis have punk'd the US military in the Persian Gulf with limited resources.

All that cold war era military/ doctrine is dead n buried now.

I just hope our chief in GHQ is watching and learning from all this.......'reality TV'

 

[ShapurII]

One wonders what IRGC achieves by hitting those empty US bases in Kuwait and Bahrain?

Some of the targets were good though, like destroying fuel depots, radars, maintenance hangars, etc.

 

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[Immortals]

They traded away 'total victory' for a paltry sum of money from the UAE!

The real IRGC generals all died in Lebanon, Iraq, and Syria the last decade. The ones left in Iran were the ones that wanted the cushy desk job and the comfort of their bed and who didn’t want to leave their families. And even then Israel killed a large amount of them.

So now it’s up to Vahidi and a few hardline generals against all the pragmatics, centrists, and reformists inside Iran (including within the IRGC itself) who just want to get a “deal”.

It’s a sorry state of affairs in the Republic right now. Too many of them are disillusioned that if they compromise on Hormuz and give away the enriched uranium, that the U.S. will drop its vendetta on Iran.

 

[Khorasan Black Flags]

Actually, he can do that based on the constitution, but even the Parliament didn't impeach this asshole after all his blunders and suspicious mistakes.

Under Article 110 of the Constitution, the President may be dismissed only through the constitutional process, such as after a ruling by the Supreme Court regarding a breach of constitutional duties or after Parliament votes that the President lacks political competence

Therefore, the Supreme Leader cannot unilaterally dismiss the President.

 

[SecularNationalist]

Also, the Baloch separatists in south-east of Iran. They have been hitting Iranshahr pretty strongly in the last 72 hours. Iranshahr hosts Brigade 388 in the Sistan and Baluchistan province.

Damn sad to know your Balochs aren't any different than ours. They don't show unity with country in the hour of need. Instead they take money from foreign countries and sell their souls.

 

[delta2]

Bro, you are here lecturing Iranian members and it's really not a good look. You honestly think you know more about what their country is doing than them? LOL, don't make me laugh please!

It's good to be positive and supportive, but don't project toxic positivity, it comes across as cringe.

Bro you are assuming that a govt always tells its people what it is up to? Did the Pakistani govt ever tell its people about its large chemical/biological weapons program? Most Pakistanis are totally clueless about it.

Most Iranians are also not privy to what the Iranian govt has been up to.


I in no way am trying to lecture anyone. I on the other hand have been thinking about how the Iranian govt had actually felt so helpless during the Iran-Iraq war when Iraq kept firing missiles into Iran at will and the Iranians had absolutely no response to it. That experience of being utterly helpless caused the Iranians to build one of the largest missile program on the planet with deep underground missile cities.

Now think about it, do you actually believe that the Iranians don't have a top secret nuclear program for which they have suffered countless accusations and near-death like choking sanctions?

Long, very long before Pakistan tested a nuke, they had done multiple cold tests and kept totally quiet about it.

I am convinced that Iran has nukes. If they don't and never bothered to despite continuous threats from THE largest nuclear Super Power on the planet, then they are secretly working with the Americans and the ultimate target and aim still is Pakistan and then Saudi Arabia.