Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[delta2]

Boots on ground is out of the question.

They already tried a "boots on the ground" special op and it backfired heavily.

The USA, if this is a real war, is not going to leave Iran alone before it causes a significant damage to the Iranians and itself suffers casualties like in Vietnam.

If this is just a plot for Trump & Associates to make billions of $$ from speculation and market manipulation, then obviously there is not going to be a ground invasion.

But what if Trump is promised another $10 Billion? This guy only wants money.

 

[Lulldapull]

Gents the destruction of the Russian military in Ukraine (multiple times) has been a nasty wakeup call for me. And likewise how the wily Iranis have punk'd the US military in the Persian Gulf with limited resources.

All that cold war era military/ doctrine is dead n buried now.

I just hope our chief in GHQ is watching and learning from all this.......'reality TV'

 

[ShapurII]

One wonders what IRGC achieves by hitting those empty US bases in Kuwait and Bahrain?

Some of the targets were good though, like destroying fuel depots, radars, maintenance hangars, etc.

 

[Watandar]

 

[Immortals]

They traded away 'total victory' for a paltry sum of money from the UAE!

The real IRGC generals all died in Lebanon, Iraq, and Syria the last decade. The ones left in Iran were the ones that wanted the cushy desk job and the comfort of their bed and who didn’t want to leave their families. And even then Israel killed a large amount of them.

So now it’s up to Vahidi and a few hardline generals against all the pragmatics, centrists, and reformists inside Iran (including within the IRGC itself) who just want to get a “deal”.

It’s a sorry state of affairs in the Republic right now. Too many of them are disillusioned that if they compromise on Hormuz and give away the enriched uranium, that the U.S. will drop its vendetta on Iran.

 

[Khorasan Black Flags]

Actually, he can do that based on the constitution, but even the Parliament didn't impeach this asshole after all his blunders and suspicious mistakes.

Under Article 110 of the Constitution, the President may be dismissed only through the constitutional process, such as after a ruling by the Supreme Court regarding a breach of constitutional duties or after Parliament votes that the President lacks political competence

Therefore, the Supreme Leader cannot unilaterally dismiss the President.

 

[SecularNationalist]

Also, the Baloch separatists in south-east of Iran. They have been hitting Iranshahr pretty strongly in the last 72 hours. Iranshahr hosts Brigade 388 in the Sistan and Baluchistan province.

Damn sad to know your Balochs aren't any different than ours. They don't show unity with country in the hour of need. Instead they take money from foreign countries and sell their souls.

 

[delta2]

Bro, you are here lecturing Iranian members and it's really not a good look. You honestly think you know more about what their country is doing than them? LOL, don't make me laugh please!

It's good to be positive and supportive, but don't project toxic positivity, it comes across as cringe.

Bro you are assuming that a govt always tells its people what it is up to? Did the Pakistani govt ever tell its people about its large chemical/biological weapons program? Most Pakistanis are totally clueless about it.

Most Iranians are also not privy to what the Iranian govt has been up to.


I in no way am trying to lecture anyone. I on the other hand have been thinking about how the Iranian govt had actually felt so helpless during the Iran-Iraq war when Iraq kept firing missiles into Iran at will and the Iranians had absolutely no response to it. That experience of being utterly helpless caused the Iranians to build one of the largest missile program on the planet with deep underground missile cities.

Now think about it, do you actually believe that the Iranians don't have a top secret nuclear program for which they have suffered countless accusations and near-death like choking sanctions?

Long, very long before Pakistan tested a nuke, they had done multiple cold tests and kept totally quiet about it.

I am convinced that Iran has nukes. If they don't and never bothered to despite continuous threats from THE largest nuclear Super Power on the planet, then they are secretly working with the Americans and the ultimate target and aim still is Pakistan and then Saudi Arabia.

 

[Khorasan Black Flags]

The real IRGC generals all died in Lebanon, Iraq, and Syria the last decade. The ones left in Iran were the ones that wanted the cushy desk job and the comfort of their bed and who didn’t want to leave their families. And even then Israel killed a large amount of them.

So now it’s up to Vahidi and a few hardline generals against all the pragmatics, centrists, and reformists inside Iran (including within the IRGC itself) who just want to get a “deal”.

It’s a sorry state of affairs in the Republic right now. Too many of them are disillusioned that if they compromise on Hormuz and give away the enriched uranium, that the U.S. will drop its vendetta on Iran.

No, the problem is that we're currently saddled with a government much like Bani-Sadr's.

 

[RescueRanger]

Damn sad to know your Balochs aren't any different than ours. They don't show unity with country in the hour of need. Instead they take money from foreign countries and sell their souls.

Those BLA rats are funded by India, and this proves it... Kurds from the West and Baloch rats from the east.



I hope Iran learn why we Pakistanis say, you can never Trust India!

 

[ShapurII]

Damn sad to know your Balochs aren't any different than ours. They don't show unity with country in the hour of need. Instead they take money from foreign countries and sell their souls.

Yes, but let's not generalize that to all Baluch people, at least in Iran.

To be fair, the number of armed Baluch separatists in Iran does not reach even 5K. Most of the Baluch people in Iran are decent citizens minding their own business, even though they live in poverty and the central government has failed to provide them with equal opportunities.

Baluch separatism in Iran is linked to the US intelligence service and the Wahhabi school of Islam.

 

[delta2]

Yaar China will never intervene no matter what in ME, let alone in their own hood. Here the JSDF will defeat them in no time, and we know this to be a fact.

I've said it before and I'll repeat it here for you, again........Iran has a far more modern and developed defense industry than these Chinese can ever dream of!....And its proven now too.

Who lands 90% of their drones n missiles on bases defended by THAAD and PAC-3's and Iron Dome and David Sling and Arrow?

China puppu?....................Really?

دو روپئے کی ملٹری ہی چین کی

I mean you know this no?

Please read more about the Korean War.

China will most definitely enter a war if they see a situation as a threat to them. The Chinese take their red lines very seriously, so much so that they will wage a hot war against the whole United Nations combined.

 

[RescueRanger]

Bro you are assuming that a govt always tells its people what it is up to? Did the Pakistani govt ever tell its people about its large chemical/biological weapons program? Most Pakistanis are totally clueless about it.

Most Iranians are also not privy to what the Iranian govt has been up to.


I in no way am trying to lecture anyone. I on the other hand have been thinking about how the Iranian govt had actually felt so helpless during the Iran-Iraq war when Iraq kept firing missiles into Iran at will and the Iranians had absolutely no response to it. That experience of being utterly helpless caused the Iranians to build one of the largest missile program on the planet with deep underground missile cities.

Now think about it, do you actually believe that the Iranians don't have a top secret nuclear program for which they have suffered countless accusations and near-death like choking sanctions?

Long, very long before Pakistan tested a nuke, they had done multiple cold tests and kept totally quiet about it.

I am convinced that Iran has nukes. If they don't and never bothered to despite continuous threats from THE largest nuclear Super Power on the planet, then they are secretly working with the Americans and the ultimate target and aim still is Pakistan and then Saudi Arabia.

Bro,

You are living in Canda, most of the Iranian members here have family in Iran. Please stop whilst you are ahead. It's really cringe.

 

[Eşbah]

One wonders what IRGC achieves by hitting those empty US bases in Kuwait and Bahrain?

Strategically, militarily, politically, and diplomatically, the attacks provided significant leverage. The frozen funds they received from the UAE is just one example.

There’s no denying it. The problem shows up when they halt their actions as soon as it becomes painful for their enemies, reaching for the first carrot that the US dangles in front of them.

America is undoubtedly aware of Iran's military capabilities and understands its weaknesses, but this knowledge alone is insufficient to secure victory in this conflict. The moment the US can accurately assess your true intentions or infer your inner thoughts, you face a major setback. This is because the entire picture becomes clear, allowing them to manipulate the situation in any direction they choose, as has occurred with the MoU.

Even we on this forum can anticipate quite accurately what the Iranian leadership thinks and how they might react. This is a fatal flaw and weakness in the structure of the Iranian system.

 

[lightning f57]

Atleast right now its baffling why Iran is not attacking tit for tat. Lets see how things play through but an air campaign wont fundamentally change control in the SOH, you need ground troops.