Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

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Almost feels like he is mocking his own dead soldiers

 

[Immortals]

What? So Orangeman is boss of jews?

It’s channel 13 news, no one talks them seriously, even in Israel.

 

[RzA]

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Almost feels like he is mocking his own dead soldiers

In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.”

Trump: Americans Who Died in War Are ‘Losers’ and ‘Suckers’

The president has repeatedly disparaged the intelligence of service members, and asked that wounded veterans be kept out of military parades, multiple sources tell The Atlantic.

www.theatlantic.com

 

[Shags101]

Bro, are there any local dead donkeys as part of collateral loss?

Well if there are any dead Jordanians we can bet they will keep a tight lip on it

 

[Hayabusa]

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Good to see some US soldiers liquidated and the consequences of their actions creeping up now.

Unfortunately, the only other way I can see the US backing off from Iran is if the war becomes so unpopular back home that the political cost outweighs the perceived benefits. Usually, public opinion shifts when American soldiers starts coming home in large numbers, which will put immense pressure on Trump to reconsider their course.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

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[Falcon29]

Good to see some US soldiers liquidated and the consequences of their actions creeping up now.

Unfortunately, the only other way I can see the US backing off from Iran is if the war becomes so unpopular back home that the political cost outweighs the perceived benefits. Usually, public opinion shifts when American soldiers starts coming home in large numbers, which will put immense pressure on Trump to reconsider their course.

It won't become unpopular over a few deaths of servicemen. Everyone is out for themselves in the US. Pressure on gas prices isn't enough to cause people to lose it and get out in the streets.

Iran's leverage is :

1.) enriched uranium ( not doing anything with it so far but keeping it is leverage )

2.) closing Strait of Hormuz (main card it's playing to get it's terms)

3) targeting critical infrastructure in Gulf Arab states (unable to prove this capability against Israel )

Iran mainly playing on cards 1 and 2 and demanding to be able to charge fees over Strait of Hormuz which US won't accept. US wants unconditional ceasefire, back to status quo kind. Iran is trying to seize opportunity while war is raging to gain some strategic benefit.

 

[ShapurII]

Saudi arabia can easily acquire a nuclear weapon if they wanted. its rumored they financed pakistan's nukes and can order one anytime they want or something like that.

This sort of nonsense is peddled by people who do not understand how nuclear deterrence works. Nuclear deterrence is not a binary situation.

 

[Immortals]

Very quiet tonight….

Meanwhile Iran once again it’s sitting waiting for the U.S. to strike first for the day instead of taking the initiative and attacking across the Middle East and keeping the pressure on Trump.

Iran exercises far too much restraint. This is why Israel wins conflicts against their opponents — unmatched brutality and not letting up. Iran needs to stop fooling around and escalate this.

 

[Abdul q]

First hand info from Kuwait coming from my colleague that blocks of buildings are being evacuated (people kicked out from homes) where there’s impacts nearby… people are living under the trees, on the streets punished for filming impacts

 

[Hayabusa]

It won't become unpopular over a few deaths of servicemen. Everyone is out for themselves in the US. Pressure on gas prices isn't enough to cause people to lose it and get out in the streets.

Iran's leverage is :

1.) enriched uranium ( not doing anything with it so far but keeping it is leverage )

2.) closing Strait of Hormuz (main card it's playing to get it's terms)

3) targeting critical infrastructure in Gulf Arab states (unable to prove this capability against Israel )

Iran mainly playing on cards 1 and 2 and demanding to be able to charge fees over Strait of Hormuz which US won't accept. US wants unconditional ceasefire, back to status quo kind. Iran is trying to seize opportunity while war is raging to gain some strategic benefit.

Agreed with most of your points except it will be unpopular as the number of deaths starts creeping up even more.

Once the body bags starts hitting home, and their families start questioning especially with this Gen Z, it's going to eventually be a problem for them.

 

[Persian Gulf]

this is the hangar in Jordan housing helicopters

 

[Shags101]

Very quiet tonight….

Meanwhile Iran once again it’s sitting waiting for the U.S. to strike first for the day instead of taking the initiative and attacking across the Middle East and keeping the pressure on Trump.

Iran exercises far too much restraint. This is why Israel wins conflicts against their opponents — unmatched brutality and not letting up. Iran needs to stop fooling around and escalate this.

Every time you start saying these things Iran ends up kicking it up a notch

 

[ShapurII]

I think it's not that far-fetched for oil prices to rise to $95 per barrel on Monday.

 

[Aziqbal]

Iran needs to unleash hell on the American assets

not 2 dead we need to see 20 dead and plenty of body bags coming back to USA

this will force the public opinion against the war

Americans dont have the stomach for such scenes