Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Immortals]

I don’t agree. Those are senior military and political officials with decades of expertise that we have lost and cannot be replaced easily. Vahidi is no Mousavi or Bagheri.

Vahidi was a key engineer in the PM Hariri Sr assassination in Lebanon and Iran’s external operations around the world in the 1980s and 1990s, Vahidi has done more high risk operations in his life than most of those pencil pushers you said like Bagheri or Salami or Shamkhani.

Most of these guys were from an old era of warfare fighting that doesn’t exist anymore or maybe never existed. And they had a tendency to waste too many human lives. Solemani against ISIS in Iraq and Al-Queda Syria, still used human wave tactics. There needed to be a changing of the guard sooner or later. Iran is the only major military in the world that has 70-80 year old generals still leading the charge.

Also Bagheri got transferred to head Artesh and did nothing. No modernization of Artesh took place. Not even some manpad orders. Instead he went to Russia and looked at some *checks notes* attack helicopters.

 

[brazensword]

Why not hit Telaviv / Israel when its bases are most actively supporting US war? Also every soul in the planet knows that whole architect / mastermind of this war was Israel.

Because Muslim territories including Saudi are hosting anti ballistics which track and intercept the missiles for Israel before they reach it.

 

[BigMela2onin]

In such circumstances, if we get weak in the knees and can't back up our insane and ridiculous rhetoric, then moving on, we need to just pave the way into having better relations with everyone, including the US and Israel. It's obvious that the leadership does not have the stomach for a prolonged conflict, nor do they want to escalate. It's time we stop with this idiotic "Marg bar Amrika" chant and just learn to live in peace with the rest of the world instead of acting like this tough guy who's ready to go berserk at any moment.

There's really no going back, the west won't even accept an Iranian surender. The eu will never invest in Iran, macron already said it will not agree to UN sanctions removal unless Iran is completely disarmed and helpless. If trump removes us sanctions the next president will probably put them back on. The goal is a "Libya" style slave market without a real government while they occupy resources. When narco rubio went to europe and said colonialism is back on, he didn't say it for nothing.

 

[brazensword]

Ohh so it's OK for the mods to do personal insults. Got it.


Can you tell me how Jordan attacked iran? Please go ahead enlighten me.

Radars that track and destroy ballistics targeting Israel are being destroyed in Jordan. Why are you crying over those? Do you want to protect Israel?

 

[Immortals]

They are not likely to have large stockpiles anymore of ALBMs

The biggest surprise of this war is that Israel had more missiles than both the U.S. and Iran.

Iran should be ashamed at the stockpile of ALBMs that Israel was able to produce (thousands) with less time and no headstart. Iran has been mass producing BMs since 2000 and really mass producing since 2007-2010.

 

[Immortals]

 

[PakistanLVR]

The best thing Israel ever did was those Assassination ops. Killing pacifists like Shamkhani, Larijani, and Khamenai Sr, as well as old stuck in their ways Generals allowed the system to reinvent itself. Killing Iranian civilians to teach the population that Israel and America don’t give a shit about brown people or their Freedom.

The best thing that can happen for Iran is for Israel to re enter this war. Because even then reformists like Zarif and Rouhani and pragmatics like Qalibaf won’t be safe as Israel tries to decapitate the entire system.

You need to be a lot more appreciate of the positive consequences that Israel’s attacks had on Iran. It could have been a lot worse if many of these former officials were still alive and running the country.

Very very sensitive post. I take back everything I said about you lol.

You understand human psyche much better than most people. Those obscure abstract ideas that most people missed or can’t comprehend. The killing of senior leaders open the spigot for the more aggressive commanders who were stuck behind the elders who wouldn’t or couldn’t get out of the way. In a way Israel did Iran a massive favor.

 

[Immortals]

The eu will never invest in Iran, macron already said it will not agree to UN sanctions removal unless Iran is completely disarmed and helpless.

No one gives a shit if France invests in Iran. And don’t worry they will be the first to line up. That’s the French for you. Macron says this shit because he knows French companies will be at a disadvantage. France did the same shit around JCPOA signing when they took a harder stance than even US in the P5+1 negotiations.

Anyway today Europe is anti growth. Look at how much they fined American Big Tech companies. Europe is not innovating or prospering. The biggest technology which is AI and Europe is not even close to China or America. Europe’s influence in the world is stagnating if not retreating year by year.

Europe is a joke these days more focused on being woke and over regulation. UK isn’t any better as their policies have caused major problems. It’s a far cry from 2000’s and I don’t think anyone looks at Europe as a major global investor anymore. I don’t think Iran cares about Europe as much as it did 20 years ago. Europe is in steep decline with its obsession over Russian war. To make matters worse mass immigration of Arabs, Indians and Africans is causing cultural backlash among the population.

If trump removes us sanctions the next president will probably put them back on.

Next president is probably a Democrat so no I doubt it. And neither Vance or Rubio would undo Trump’s signature peace deal.

The biggest thing Iran needs is U.S. companies to invest in Iran and Chinese companies to invest in Iran. These are the only companies in the world that can get shit done and properly integrate Iran into global economy.

Not Europe, Not Arabs, Not Pakistan, No india, not Russia.

The problem is even if Trump lifts all sanctions on Iran and encourages everyone to invest in Iran, there is no guarantee anyone actually does. There is too much risk and red tape around Iran that it might take years or decades for companies to ramp up investment into the country.

 

[Immortals]

 

[030292]

One of the jets in the first pic has two cockpits

 

[BHAN85]

Very very sensitive post. I take back everything I said about you lol.

You understand human psyche much better than most people. Those obscure abstract ideas that most people missed or can’t comprehend. The killing of senior leaders open the spigot for the more aggressive commanders who were stuck behind the elders who wouldn’t or couldn’t get out of the way. In a way Israel did Iran a massive favor.

It's not a error, it's work well done from USA interests point of view.

The USA mission for Israel is to bring chaos to the zone. It's not keep order or win war.

So the most aggressive enemies they create, the better.

If Iran closes eternally Hormuz or launch 20 nukes to middle east, it would be wonderful from USA ruling elite interests point of view.

USA in 2026 is not USA of the 20th century interested in world order and development.

This current rogue USA it's interested in economy destruction and energy routes disruption: nordstream, Hormuz and so on.

This new USA behavior scares USA vassals and they don't know how accept or handle new situation.

They say USA wants this or that, they want money or oil, they want to win the war but they fail due to errors.

Wrong.

USA doesn't want anything from you, Eurasian, except you die soon and in a cheap way.

 

[FUB]

All of the bravado , the The huffing and puffing for this Turkish Akinci drone easy prey to an Iranian 358 or 359

 

[UKBengali]

The biggest surprise of this war is that Israel had more missiles than both the U.S. and Iran.

Iran should be ashamed at the stockpile of ALBMs that Israel was able to produce (thousands) with less time and no headstart. Iran has been mass producing BMs since 2000 and really mass producing since 2007-2010.

I seriously doubt the Zionist entity had thousands of ALBMs at start of June 2025 war and it is more likely hundreds.


They are likely down to very low hundreds at most now and so will be careful how they use them.

 

[FUB]

Very foolish move

 

[RzA]