Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Immortals]

The eu will never invest in Iran, macron already said it will not agree to UN sanctions removal unless Iran is completely disarmed and helpless.

No one gives a shit if France invests in Iran. And don’t worry they will be the first to line up. That’s the French for you. Macron says this shit because he knows French companies will be at a disadvantage. France did the same shit around JCPOA signing when they took a harder stance than even US in the P5+1 negotiations.

Anyway today Europe is anti growth. Look at how much they fined American Big Tech companies. Europe is not innovating or prospering. The biggest technology which is AI and Europe is not even close to China or America. Europe’s influence in the world is stagnating if not retreating year by year.

Europe is a joke these days more focused on being woke and over regulation. UK isn’t any better as their policies have caused major problems. It’s a far cry from 2000’s and I don’t think anyone looks at Europe as a major global investor anymore. I don’t think Iran cares about Europe as much as it did 20 years ago. Europe is in steep decline with its obsession over Russian war. To make matters worse mass immigration of Arabs, Indians and Africans is causing cultural backlash among the population.

If trump removes us sanctions the next president will probably put them back on.

Next president is probably a Democrat so no I doubt it. And neither Vance or Rubio would undo Trump’s signature peace deal.

The biggest thing Iran needs is U.S. companies to invest in Iran and Chinese companies to invest in Iran. These are the only companies in the world that can get shit done and properly integrate Iran into global economy.

Not Europe, Not Arabs, Not Pakistan, No india, not Russia.

The problem is even if Trump lifts all sanctions on Iran and encourages everyone to invest in Iran, there is no guarantee anyone actually does. There is too much risk and red tape around Iran that it might take years or decades for companies to ramp up investment into the country.

 

[Immortals]

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One of the jets in the first pic has two cockpits

 

[BHAN85]

Very very sensitive post. I take back everything I said about you lol.

You understand human psyche much better than most people. Those obscure abstract ideas that most people missed or can’t comprehend. The killing of senior leaders open the spigot for the more aggressive commanders who were stuck behind the elders who wouldn’t or couldn’t get out of the way. In a way Israel did Iran a massive favor.

It's not a error, it's work well done from USA interests point of view.

The USA mission for Israel is to bring chaos to the zone. It's not keep order or win war.

So the most aggressive enemies they create, the better.

If Iran closes eternally Hormuz or launch 20 nukes to middle east, it would be wonderful from USA ruling elite interests point of view.

USA in 2026 is not USA of the 20th century interested in world order and development.

This current rogue USA it's interested in economy destruction and energy routes disruption: nordstream, Hormuz and so on.

This new USA behavior scares USA vassals and they don't know how accept or handle new situation.

They say USA wants this or that, they want money or oil, they want to win the war but they fail due to errors.

Wrong.

USA doesn't want anything from you, Eurasian, except you die soon and in a cheap way.

 

[FUB]

All of the bravado , the The huffing and puffing for this Turkish Akinci drone easy prey to an Iranian 358 or 359

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[UKBengali]

The biggest surprise of this war is that Israel had more missiles than both the U.S. and Iran.

Iran should be ashamed at the stockpile of ALBMs that Israel was able to produce (thousands) with less time and no headstart. Iran has been mass producing BMs since 2000 and really mass producing since 2007-2010.

I seriously doubt the Zionist entity had thousands of ALBMs at start of June 2025 war and it is more likely hundreds.


They are likely down to very low hundreds at most now and so will be careful how they use them.

 

[FUB]

Very foolish move

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[Aryan_B]

If true, Iran might be led by the dumbest people to lead the country since the Qajar Dynasty. Absolute imbeciles. Just sell the country to Trump at this point.

They will tear up any agreement after the mid terms and by then they will have Mojtaba’s location as well and kill him in the next round of attacks along with all these Bozo The Clown Politicians and Generals.

Trump is stalling till after mid terms.

I understand your frustrations but dont be too harsh on leaders for now

 

[Aryan_B]

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This is bollocks if American want them to stop they have no choice. Its American tax payer money and american weapons. Without american supples to Shitrail Hamas will take Palsestine back in a week or two

 

[Immortals]

All of the bravado , the The huffing and puffing for this Turkish Akinci drone easy prey to an Iranian 358 or 359

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Shocking that a drone that looks like this:



….is hard to detect

These MALE drones that are big and bulky need to die. They are useless in contested airspace or against near peer adversary. This drone costs at least $8-10M without maintenance parts or weapons. Cheaper than Reaper drone sure, but just as vulnerable. We have seen Chinese LONG drone being shot down in iran and Yemen as well.

I hope Iran realizes this and retires many of its own bulky MALE drones and focuses on next generation designs that incorporate radar absorbing material and smaller RCS.

 

[FUB]

What is the point of agreeing to a cease-fire when you have your enemy retreating? this is just foolish. They’re gonna re-arm. They’re gonna reload and they’re gonna do this again .
they’re not gonna comply with any of the MOU so what’s the point of opening the straight?

 

[Immortals]

I seriously doubt the Zionist entity had thousands of ALBMs at start of June 2025 war and it is more likely hundreds.


They are likely down to very low hundreds at most now and so will be careful how they use them.

They fired hundreds (possibly more) in the 12 day war alone as Israel wasn’t penetrating Iranian airspace very often if at all. They likely fired another 1000-2000 during the 40 day war considering that U.S. and Israel launched 25,000+ strikes on Iran, I would say that number is conservative.

Once again I doubt Israeli fighters risked being shot down deep inside Iran and stayed in the border regions or over the Caspian Sea using Azerbaijan as friendly airspace to hide in. ALBMs were its weapon of choice in these situations. Most of the videos of hits deep inside Iran were Israeli drones.

So Iran needs to understand how a western military was able to create so many precise ALBMs in such a short time.

 

[RzA]

There's really no going back, the west won't even accept an Iranian surender. The eu will never invest in Iran, macron already said it will not agree to UN sanctions removal unless Iran is completely disarmed and helpless. If trump removes us sanctions the next president will probably put them back on. The goal is a "Libya" style slave market without a real government while they occupy resources. When narco rubio went to europe and said colonialism is back on, he didn't say it for nothing.

I get the distrust. The US walked away from the JCPOA, brought back sanctions, and basically proved to Iran that a deal made with one administration can get torn up by the next. Fair point. But that still doesn't turn every worst case prediction into a proven fact.

And I wouldn't take Macron too seriously here -- the guy's an asshat who runs his mouth about as much as our own government does. That said, I'll engage with the actual European conditions that have been reported: restoring IAEA inspections, accounting for enriched uranium stockpiles, and returning to talks with Washington. You can absolutely call those demands coercive, but they're not remotely the same as telling Iran to give up its military, its sovereignty, or its ability to govern itself.

"The EU will never invest in Iran" is also too much. After the 2015 deal, European governments actively pushed trade, project financing, export credits, and investment into Iran. European companies lined up tens of billions in deals -- Airbus, Peugeot, Renault, Total, all in. What actually killed those deals was American secondary sanctions making the risk too high, which drove companies out. That shows Europe folds under US pressure, not that Europeans have some permanent aversion to doing business with Iran.

The strongest part of your argument is the point about future presidents re-imposing sanctions. Executive sanctions can be pulled back and then reinstated by the next guy, while sanctions passed by Congress are much harder to unwind. But that's an argument for demanding binding guarantees, congressional sign off, phased implementation, and automatic penalties for violations, which is not proof that diplomacy is a dead end. Some sanctions were already being waived under the 2026 interim arrangement, so saying no deal or concession will ever stick is overstating it.

The Libya comparison is a fair warning about what happens when a state collapses. It's not evidence that slave markets, permanent chaos, and resource grabs are the actual goal in Iran. A government can pursue a reckless policy that leads to disaster without that disaster being the secret plan all along. If you're going to claim deliberate intent, you need more than pointing at another country where intervention went badly.

 

[UKBengali]

They fired hundreds (possibly more) in the 12 day war alone as Israel wasn’t penetrating Iranian airspace very often if at all. They likely fired another 1000-2000 during the 40 day war considering that U.S. and Israel launched 25,000+ strikes on Iran, I would say that number is conservative.

Once again I doubt Israeli fighters risked being shot down deep inside Iran and stayed in the border regions or over the Caspian Sea using Azerbaijan as friendly airspace to hide in. ALBMs were its weapon of choice in these situations. Most of the videos of hits deep inside Iran were Israeli drones.

So Iran needs to understand how a western military was able to create so many precise ALBMs in such a short time.

ALBMs are not easy to manufacture and some are like only produced in last 5 years.

They also are rather expensive at like 5 million+ each and so those numbers are not realistic in my opinion.

Remember they used a lot of glide bombs to attack targets in Iran, and only used ALBMs in mass at start of each campaign to take out radars etc and then during the war other highly defended targets where they wanted to stay away many hundreds of kms from firing.

I still stick that they only ever had many hundreds at start of June 2025 and are now in low hundreds at most(2-300).