Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[OldTwilight]

Source pls any?

Iranian national tv

 

[Nawnaw1]

I dont want to believe weatern media pr9paganda when they say Iranian missile capabilities have been destroyed. But when I see that Iran has not been able to fire more than 10 missiles in a single day for last 2-3 months. It seems there is some truth to it and iran somehow lost the ability to fire 40-50 missiles each day.

Now, some may argue that iran is playing the long term game. Okay. I hear you. But if 4 months into a war, and you are still being attacked from a neighbouring country which is not even 18000 sq.km total land area.... then maybe you lost.

Firing 4-5 missiles towards Jordan, which we know are going to be intercepted by US, Israel and Nato assets... is worthless.

Even after 4 months of war. UAE, Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait, Jordan, Israel, USA... none of this country lost its ability to attack iran. All of them are capable even today and still do attack iran. If iran was successful enough in making atleast 2 of them harmless and arm-less, I would be saying Iran actually achieved something here.

Himars are mobile systems. I don't think the fact that there is still Himars firing, means that Iran has too few missiles. These things are truck-launched. Shoot and scoot. They do that in Ukraine for 4-5 years now against Russia. If Iran has to flatten every single building in every single military base in the PGCC, that would be a huge waste of missiles. And we have to account for response time.

 

[Flotilla]

Iran's Interior Minister was in Pakistan and met the Pakistan Army Chief. There is a lot of coordination between the two countries. Pakistan has to walk a tightrope to protect its financial interests as well as to ensure Iran doesn't fall and become a staging ground for the India-Israel axis.
And Iranians know all that.

Yes, you´re right. Moreover, I don´t have any proof but I am sure that Pakistan is still struggling to contain the conflict and assessing both parts not to hit sensitive targets.

The bullshit Trump spouts on X doesn't align with the combat missions the Pentagon carries out. So, I suspect someone is trying to turn down the heat. And the only one qualified to do that is Pakistan.

 

[RealNapster]

Himars are mobile systems. I don't think the fact that there is still Himars firing, means that Iran has too few missiles. These things are truck-launched. Shoot and scoot

Shoot and scoot where ? Its an 18000 sq.km country. On iran border. 95% of its landmass is plain desert. If iranian intelligence failed here and cant pinpoint the location for Himars on a small neighbouring country then it failed.

And no... himars beings fired on iran isnt the argument for its presumably lost ability to fire missiles in large numbers. The fact that we haven't seen iran do this even once (not even once did it fire more than 15 missiles in a single day for last 2-3 months)... that's what is giving strength to the claims that iran may have lost its ability to launch meaningful missile attack.

 

[Pakistan First]

It is evident that the United States' ammunition reserves are gradually depleting, and Iran should seize the opportunity to continue clearing out U.S. military bases, paving the way for other forces. A path that unites them in resistance. The Middle East is in a state of turmoil, and all countries in the region are watching; they need a window to break free from manipulation.

Ammunition depletion is only concern as far as Tomahawks & interceptors are concerned.

But they have absolutely no shortage of cheaper ammunition which they widely used in phase-2 of war. Like UCAVs, fighter jets and bombers dropping laser guided bombs. The footages that US centcom shows of hitting targets is always of weapons being dropped by fighter jets or UCAVs. These laser guided bombs are 100s of times cheaper than Iranian ballistic missile.

 

[Nawnaw1]

Ammunition depletion is only concern as far as Tomahawks & interceptors are concerned.

But they have absolutely no shortage of cheaper ammunition which they widely used in phase-2 of war. Like UCAVs, fighter jets and bombers dropping laser guided bombs. The footages that US centcom shows of hitting targets is always of weapons being dropped by fighter jets or UCAVs. These laser guided bombs are 100s of times cheaper than Iranian ballistic missile.

How can we know that from footage? That it's JDAMs being used a lot? UCAVs get shot down, that's not relevant. They can only fire Hellfires afaik. This isn't Afghanistan/Pakistan borderland strikes by predators of the early 2000s anymore.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Fed holding out seems trump is influencing them to keep interests low but spiraling inflation and then late interest rise adjustments may end up leading to a recession.

Oil prices are now starting to feed into the economy now, and it will cause interest rate adjustments across the world in weeks to come, there is no way around that reality. Trump is hoping they can stay low, until the mid terms are over, could he get away with that, is unknown of course.

The Bank of England will keep rates the same this month, and the next decision point is September, and it is a complicated picture..

Interest rates live: Bank of England holds rates at 3.75%

Three of the Monetary Policy Committee's nine members voted in favour of raising rates to 4% over fears of inflation caused by conflict in the Middle East.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Meengla]

Yes, you´re right. Moreover, I don´t have any proof but I am sure that Pakistan is still struggling to contain the conflict and assessing both parts not to hit sensitive targets.
The bullshit Trump spouts on X doesn't align with the combat missions the Pentagon carries out. So, I suspect someone is trying to turn down the heat. And the only one qualified to do that is Pakistan.

Dr. Shazia Cheema is a new analyst to me; seen only a few of her videos but reminds me of the great Chas Freeman in connecting the dots. No English captions available so I will try to summarize:
- Pakistan and Pakistanis are solidly behind Iran because Pakistan can't afford an Israel backed regime sitting next to Pakistan.
- Iran needs to talk with its neighbors and come up with a Malacca Strait like solution to collect fees for the Strait of Hormuz passage, which would also be a face saving for Trump
- Zelensky and Netanyahu in Washington are working to convince Trump to go all-in against Russia and Iran
- Zelensky promising Ukraine's formidable drone tech against Iran
- Ultimate aim of the West is China and Iran is 'collateral'
- Iran should talk to its neighbors as they too want the Americans out; bombing randomly there will not be helpful to Iran either
- The Saudi delegation going to the Ayatollah funeral uninvited need not have been subtly lectured by selective verses from Quran

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[RzA]

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[Persian Gulf]

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[Pakistan First]

How can we know that from footage? That it's JDAMs being used a lot? UCAVs get shot down, that's not relevant. They can only fire Hellfires afaik. This isn't Afghanistan/Pakistan borderland strikes by predators of the early 2000s anymore.

Its very easy to know from footage. The footage shows a payload dropping over a target and then bang. That means there's an aircraft (UCAV or fighter jet) above that is recording that video. Every sort of that air dropped weapon is extremely cheaper than a ground launched weapon. A fighter jet can deliver payload (bombs) over and over again. While a BM or stand off missile like tomahawaks deliver the payload only once.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Ammunition depletion is only concern as far as Tomahawks & interceptors are concerned.

But they have absolutely no shortage of cheaper ammunition which they widely used in phase-2 of war. Like UCAVs, fighter jets and bombers dropping laser guided bombs. The footages that US centcom shows of hitting targets is always of weapons being dropped by fighter jets or UCAVs. These laser guided bombs are 100s of times cheaper than Iranian ballistic missile.

You are largely right except for “100s of times cheaper than Iranian ballistic missile”. Each JASSM costs $1 million+.

 

[Lulldapull]

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MOU 2.0 coming soon gents.

@Meengla