Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds
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Desert
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They haven't learned anything , they lost f-18 from on top of a carrier while trying to evade a houthi missile ..
Shags101
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Like I said not knocking you just not big on random sites
Magi
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Before the Iran revolution, USSR armed Iraq to the teeth as a counterweight to Iran. These excerpts are from the US senate discussion on the sale of E-3 AWACS to Iran in 1978.
KAL-EL
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Not to mention the fact that the usn is more powerful then anything Egypt can dish out.
Watandar
Trusted Member
These leaks about low US weapons stockpiles keep happening. Earlier today it was the PrSM and now its interceptors. This is either misinformation before a major attack, or more likely the military messaging the politicians to get out of this mess.
The US military has exhausted nearly 80% of its interceptors for a key missile defense system as senior US military commanders are warning that the Pentagon’s munitions stockpile is “dangerously low,” according to multiple sources familiar with the matter.
Stockpiles of key air defense systems have been particularly depleted during the war with Iran. The US military has burned through nearly four-fifths of its THAAD missile inventory compared to pre-war numbers and roughly half of its Patriot interceptors since the start of the war, according to two sources familiar with the latest inventory report. The disclosure of the low THAAD inventory has not been previously reported.
The Center for Strategic and International Studies estimates the United States had around 2,200 Patriots (of the platform’s two most-modernized variants) and 452 THAAD missiles in its stockpile before the Iran war started.
Gulf countries have also raised fresh concerns about how a shortage of air defense systems could impact their ability to ward off potential Iranian retaliation if President
Donald Trump decides to escalate the ongoing conflict.
Several of those countries rely on US air defense systems and have acknowledged the stockpile shortage could hinder their own ability to intercept incoming Iranian missile and drone attacks – particularly if they are targeted in response to any American escalation, multiple officials said.
The stockpile issue was raised again prior to the president’s decision last weekend to cancel new strikes on Iran, marking at least the second time in recent weeks that Trump’s senior military advisers have specifically voiced concerns about the dwindling number of key US munitions during discussions about potentially escalating the conflict with Iran.
The US Army has also used “virtually all” of its highly accurate long-range, surface-to-air weapons during the conflict, according to the source familiar with recent internal Pentagon reports. Reuters first reported the specific concerns about US stockpiles of long-range strategic missiles.
Trump on Friday was planning to move forward with massive strikes, and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth received the final “go ahead” order on Friday, according to a senior Trump official.
But Trump decided to back off after talking with Middle East allies on Saturday, who told him they were afraid of Iranian retaliation, specifically retaliatory attacks on their energy infrastructure, according to the official. Trump agreed to hear them, and Iran, out. He subsequently told Hegseth to stand down, for now, but is not taking the planned strikes off the table for a future date.
“America’s military is the most powerful in the world and has everything it needs to execute at the time and place of the President’s choosing,” Chief Pentagon spokesman Sean Parnell said in a statement to CNN.
“We have executed multiple successful operations across combatant commands while ensuring the U.S. military possesses a deep arsenal of capabilities to protect our people and our interests,” he added.
White House spokesperson Anna Kelly told CNN that the US military “has more than enough munitions, ammo, and stockpiles to serve all of President Trump’s strategic goals and beyond.”
“Operation Epic Fury has exposed what happens when you mess with the United States. Even still, the President has urged our defense contractors to constantly produce more made-in-America weapons, which are the best in the world,” Kelly added.
Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Gen. Dan Caine similarly raised the stockpile issue during another White House meeting late last month where military options for escalating the conflict were discussed, CNN previously reported. The potential for massive civilian casualties inside Iran if the US resumed major combat operations was also raised, another person familiar with the matter said.
But the persistent concerns about stockpile estimates provided to CNN underline the seriousness of the shortages and call into question the US’ ability to carry out strikes against Iran for an extended period.
The stockpile shortage could also impact the American military’s ability to fight a potential future war with China, Russia or even North Korea, experts have told CNN.
The long-range missiles that have been primarily used up during the war with Iran are known as Army Tactical Missile Systems (ATACMS) and Precision Strike Missiles (PrSM), the sources noted.
The US’ stockpile of Tomahawk missiles also remains significantly depleted, as close to half of those weapons have been used during the war, one of the sources said.
CNN reported in April that the US military had used nearly 30% of its Tomahawks during the early stages of the war.
On Monday, Trump called Iranian leadership “unbelievably duplicitous” on social media after Tehran contradicted his claim that negotiations would resume.
He later insisted that this is Iran’s “last chance” to sign a deal, but he also said he has no time constraints on negotiations because he’s not seeking reelection.
The early phase of the Iran conflict, dubbed Operation Epic Fury, saw the US military expend thousands of key missiles used for long-range precision strikes and to defend against enemy air and missile attacks, according to analysts and previous CNN reporting.
US Air Force aerial porters prepare to load Terminal High-Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) support equipment onto a C-17 Globemaster III in October 2024.
(Senior Airman Zeeshan Naeem/United States Air Forces Central)
Replenishment rates are low for key missiles, analysts tell CNN — according to current fiscal year delivery schedules, the Pentagon is receiving roughly 15 new Tomahawks and 20 new Patriot missiles per month. The Center for Strategic and International Studies estimated it would take three or more years to rebuild THAAD inventories to pre-Iran war levels.
The Defense Department has accelerated its efforts to expand interceptor missile production in recent months, including two deals inked this week to boost Patriot and THAAD rocket motor manufacturing, but a spokesperson declined to answer questions about when the expansion will lead to results.
Analysts say it could take years to fully replenish the US stockpile of high-end munitions, like Patriot missiles, due to the lead time for producing those weapons.
Other missile inventories, such as those for the Precision Strike Missile and the Joint Air-to-Surface Standoff Missile, will be quicker to rebound and should reach their pre-war level by mid-to-late 2027, according to analysis from the Center for Strategic and International Studies.
US military has used up nearly 80% of key missile interceptors as commanders warn stockpiles ‘dangerously low,’ sources say
The US military has exhausted nearly 80% of its interceptors for a key missile defense system as senior US military commanders are warning that the Pentagon’s munitions stockpile is “dangerously low,” according to multiple sources familiar with the matter.
Stockpiles of key air defense systems have been particularly depleted during the war with Iran. The US military has burned through nearly four-fifths of its THAAD missile inventory compared to pre-war numbers and roughly half of its Patriot interceptors since the start of the war, according to two sources familiar with the latest inventory report. The disclosure of the low THAAD inventory has not been previously reported.
The Center for Strategic and International Studies estimates the United States had around 2,200 Patriots (of the platform’s two most-modernized variants) and 452 THAAD missiles in its stockpile before the Iran war started.
Gulf countries have also raised fresh concerns about how a shortage of air defense systems could impact their ability to ward off potential Iranian retaliation if President
Donald Trump decides to escalate the ongoing conflict.
Several of those countries rely on US air defense systems and have acknowledged the stockpile shortage could hinder their own ability to intercept incoming Iranian missile and drone attacks – particularly if they are targeted in response to any American escalation, multiple officials said.
The stockpile issue was raised again prior to the president’s decision last weekend to cancel new strikes on Iran, marking at least the second time in recent weeks that Trump’s senior military advisers have specifically voiced concerns about the dwindling number of key US munitions during discussions about potentially escalating the conflict with Iran.
The US Army has also used “virtually all” of its highly accurate long-range, surface-to-air weapons during the conflict, according to the source familiar with recent internal Pentagon reports. Reuters first reported the specific concerns about US stockpiles of long-range strategic missiles.
Weekend strikes called off
The recent warnings about munitions shortages — coupled with other intelligence presented to Trump about the potential negative effects of striking Iran’s critical infrastructure, including energy-related targets, and concerns voiced by Gulf countries — have been compelling enough to convince some of Trump’s most hawkish advisers there were was reason to call off planned operations over the weekend, the sources said.Trump on Friday was planning to move forward with massive strikes, and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth received the final “go ahead” order on Friday, according to a senior Trump official.
But Trump decided to back off after talking with Middle East allies on Saturday, who told him they were afraid of Iranian retaliation, specifically retaliatory attacks on their energy infrastructure, according to the official. Trump agreed to hear them, and Iran, out. He subsequently told Hegseth to stand down, for now, but is not taking the planned strikes off the table for a future date.
“America’s military is the most powerful in the world and has everything it needs to execute at the time and place of the President’s choosing,” Chief Pentagon spokesman Sean Parnell said in a statement to CNN.
“We have executed multiple successful operations across combatant commands while ensuring the U.S. military possesses a deep arsenal of capabilities to protect our people and our interests,” he added.
White House spokesperson Anna Kelly told CNN that the US military “has more than enough munitions, ammo, and stockpiles to serve all of President Trump’s strategic goals and beyond.”
“Operation Epic Fury has exposed what happens when you mess with the United States. Even still, the President has urged our defense contractors to constantly produce more made-in-America weapons, which are the best in the world,” Kelly added.
Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Gen. Dan Caine similarly raised the stockpile issue during another White House meeting late last month where military options for escalating the conflict were discussed, CNN previously reported. The potential for massive civilian casualties inside Iran if the US resumed major combat operations was also raised, another person familiar with the matter said.
But the persistent concerns about stockpile estimates provided to CNN underline the seriousness of the shortages and call into question the US’ ability to carry out strikes against Iran for an extended period.
The stockpile shortage could also impact the American military’s ability to fight a potential future war with China, Russia or even North Korea, experts have told CNN.
‘Tit-for-tat will never end this.’
“The lack of interceptors means that conventional attacks can backfire if the suicide drones start making it through in-masse,” one of the sources familiar with the stockpile concerns said. “Tit-for-tat will never end this.”The long-range missiles that have been primarily used up during the war with Iran are known as Army Tactical Missile Systems (ATACMS) and Precision Strike Missiles (PrSM), the sources noted.
The US’ stockpile of Tomahawk missiles also remains significantly depleted, as close to half of those weapons have been used during the war, one of the sources said.
CNN reported in April that the US military had used nearly 30% of its Tomahawks during the early stages of the war.
On Monday, Trump called Iranian leadership “unbelievably duplicitous” on social media after Tehran contradicted his claim that negotiations would resume.
He later insisted that this is Iran’s “last chance” to sign a deal, but he also said he has no time constraints on negotiations because he’s not seeking reelection.
The early phase of the Iran conflict, dubbed Operation Epic Fury, saw the US military expend thousands of key missiles used for long-range precision strikes and to defend against enemy air and missile attacks, according to analysts and previous CNN reporting.
US Air Force aerial porters prepare to load Terminal High-Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) support equipment onto a C-17 Globemaster III in October 2024.
(Senior Airman Zeeshan Naeem/United States Air Forces Central)
Replenishment rates are low for key missiles, analysts tell CNN — according to current fiscal year delivery schedules, the Pentagon is receiving roughly 15 new Tomahawks and 20 new Patriot missiles per month. The Center for Strategic and International Studies estimated it would take three or more years to rebuild THAAD inventories to pre-Iran war levels.
The Defense Department has accelerated its efforts to expand interceptor missile production in recent months, including two deals inked this week to boost Patriot and THAAD rocket motor manufacturing, but a spokesperson declined to answer questions about when the expansion will lead to results.
Analysts say it could take years to fully replenish the US stockpile of high-end munitions, like Patriot missiles, due to the lead time for producing those weapons.
Other missile inventories, such as those for the Precision Strike Missile and the Joint Air-to-Surface Standoff Missile, will be quicker to rebound and should reach their pre-war level by mid-to-late 2027, according to analysis from the Center for Strategic and International Studies.
Desert
Registered Member
You do know that U.S navy always gets slapped in this area , right?
first , USS Liberty incident, which occurred on June 8, 1967, israel targeted it and killed your country men and no one cared
secondly , houthis do target your ships from time to time and even your withdrew the 6 fleet from bahrain cuz of Iran attacks.
and now with Egypt's accident and where is the retaliation ?
where is the mighty USN ? big mouth and no actions.
KingQamaR
Elite Member
It was Shah’sTen of Billions Pounds of modern Arsenal he bought from US. It’s funny , he never used them but after he was overthrown , Iran did use the weapons to defend themselves in the Iran and Iraq war so in a sense, the Shah was right in buying the weapons ….
Magi
Registered Member
Iran has no friends. China's 5 million bpd reduction in oil purchases was one of, if not the main determining factor in the failure of the Strait blockade.
krash
THINK TANK: CONSULTANT
Iran has supported non-state and anti-state elements involved in terrorism in most of these countries, including Pakistan. Please hold off on the rhetoric, we know exactly how clean everyone is in this cesspit.
Much worse examples on both sides.
You can see the sectarian nonsense based on miniscule and meaningless differences of belief on this very thread, from both ends, including your previous post.
A disgusting act draped in deceitful sectarian rhetoric hiding their financial and political aims. I don't care for meaningless associations and I demand that you do the same. There are just as many examples of the exact same hate and accompanying acts of villainy on the other side. Pretending that they don't exist is disingenuous. I won't start listing them here because I am not naive enough to allow some Sunnis here to use them as fuel against your statements. But if you insist then I can list them, no problem.
That manufactured history you spoke of, you just attempted to create your own in your previous post. That too for another country and people who have nothing to offer you beyond the geopolitical stake your country has in them.
Shias are not and have never been a force to be reckoned with. Neither have Sunnis. Individual states have been, who happened to have majority populations of one or the other. Religious belief systems don't run armies, economies, or foreign policy, and the differences in them don't serve more than as an excuse to calm our own failings through otherization. If we refrain from leaning on these meaningless differences spread by snake oil selling hacks, then our individual countries, not sects, will be one step closer to becoming that force.
For all the pretentious nonsense of difference spread by them both, both are exactly as good and exactly as bad. Also, this pitching for some other team for meaningless and purely coincidental similarities is unappealing....but also purely a personal matter, so do as you must.
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ShapurII
Trusted Member
The Islamic Republic has an unfortunate way of choosing friends. At least, the Chinese have never been aggressive towards us in the past, but countries like Russia and Iraq have been our enemies in the past, even in the recent past, and yet the Islamic Republic never fails to sacrifice our interests for them.
I'm still waiting for somebody to tell me what we have received from Russia after risking our ties with the Europeans and selling thousands of UAVs to them. The Russians have modified Shahed-136 drones and refused to share their technology with us. Very interesting, isn't it?
That is besides the fact that the Russians have consistently refused to sell us jet fighters, they delayed S-300 sale to us when we needed them the most in 2009, and they passed 4 rounds of UN sanctions lasting indefinitely on Iran.
KAL-EL
VIP Member
Well if they're big mouth no action. Why don't you attack them? Seriously, launch an all-out attack on United States aircraft carrier.
Now I already know the answer to this because I live in the real world.
You, however, are vastly overrating your government's military power. Now I'm assuming you're Egyptian because you seem to keep focusing on that.
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Not trying to hurt your nationalist pride, but this is the real world we're talking about, not a video gameT
he day that Egypt actually attacks full forcely against the usn, I will send you 100 USD.
Iran whose military power surpasses yours, hasn't been able to.
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Meengla
Elite Member
NY Times had a story on front page today saying AIPAC is spending twice the amount to the upcoming Midterms but trying to lessen the mention of 'Israel'. Just think about the sea change in America going on since the recent Israel-Gaza war. Netanyahu knows that and must be worried and hence this is his last chance to fulfill a lifetime ambition: Destroy Iran while Trump is the POTUS.
Desert
Registered Member
Oh wow , I don't speak Arabic, do i ? .. I've already told you we attacked them and forced them out of our shores (through EW cyber attack and caused them to collide and the aircraft carrier captain got sacked because of that.) and you asked for sources and i've already posted em and they were attacked previously by israel and killed A LOT of your country men and now they are being attacked by yemen and iran.
so else do you want? if something the U.S is good at it is making new enemies every day and for what ? for israel ? lol good luck.
KAL-EL
VIP Member
The fact that you would think Egypt would be anywhere near a match for us, US power just shows you're loaded up on super hopium..
As I said in a previous post, not trying to hurt your nationalistic pride or anything. Just speaking facts.
And I already acknowledged to you that you did finally post a crediblw source. Did you not read that?
We can keep going round and round on this and it's basically a waste of our time. At least a waste in my time. Besides that, this thread is about the US Iran war. Nothing to do with Egypt. W
e don't want to go too far off topic not fair to other members here, so Suck up your pride
