Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Immortals]

 

[Desert]

not one of those which got shot down in kuwait?

 

[Agnostic Muslim]

So the logical conclusion is this is a united front against Iran.

Not necessarily - Iran would have to be the aggressor and attack Saudi Arabia first. I don’t see Pakistan (at least) joining a conflict against Iran if the Saudis provoke Iran first (either directly or by allowing US/Israel/NATO military ops against Iran from its soil/airspace.

 

[Flotilla]

not one of those which got shot down in kuwait?

No. Both of them were downed well inside Kuwait. You have pictures of pilots being surprised by kuwaiti civilians.

 

[Immortals]

 

[Bratva]

Why Iran or iranian people are getting insecure about a pact which doesn't concern them and is b/w independent countries? Don't you people have a war to resolve with America?
It is perplexing that people here are still cheering for Houthi proxies when their country is fighting an existential war with America. Imagine If Saudis start funding and cheering for Jaish ul Adl and MEK/PMOI. People shouldn't start a fire in someone else backyard if they have gasoline tanks in their own backyard ready to be lit by neighbors.

What was IRGC advisors doing in Iraq embedded with Militias/Rebel groups which are not officially recognized by Government of Iraq and I believe is banned too? Those advisors supposed to be in Iran, fighting America, not needling Saudis. They couldn't find Israeli bases in Iraq but wanna poke Saudia. I don't know what do you call this mindset!

 

[Bratva]

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

Why Iran or iranian people are getting insecure about a pact which doesn't concern them and is b/w independent countries? Don't you people have a war to resolve with America?
It is perplexing that people here are still cheering for Houthi proxies while they are fighting an existential war with America. Imagine If Saudis start funding and cheering for Jaish ul Adl and MEK/PMOI. People shouldn't start a fire in someone else backyard if they have gasoline tanks in their own backyard ready to be lit by neighbors.

What was IRGC advisors doing in Iraq embedded with Militias/Rebel groups which are not officially recognized by Government of Iraq and I believe is banned too? Those advisors supposed to be in Iran, fighting America, not needling Saudis. They couldn't find Israeli bases in Iraq but wanna poke Saudia. I don't know what do you call this mindset!

The pact did not include Syria, Iraq, Iran, Lebanon, so probably it's a sectarian pact and not against Israel basically.

- Arab Struggle Movement for the Liberation of Ahvaz (ASMLA): Objective legal findings directly link Saudi intelligence to this ethnic Arab separatist group. In February 2022, a Danish district court found three ASMLA members guilty of spying for Saudi intelligence and financing terrorism by funding the group's militant wing inside Iran.

- Prominent Saudi figures, such as former intelligence chief Prince Turki al-Faisal, have openly attended and spoken at the MEK annual rallies, signaling political Alignment.

- Saudi Arabia provided massive financial, economic, and logistical support to Saddam Hussein’s Iraq during the Iran-Iraq War (1980–1988)

These are just a few examples.

 

[Bratva]

The pact did not include Syria, Iraq, Iran, Lebanon, so probably it's a sectarian pact and not against Israel basically.

- Arab Struggle Movement for the Liberation of Ahvaz (ASMLA): Objective legal findings directly link Saudi intelligence to this ethnic Arab separatist group. In February 2022, a Danish district court found three ASMLA members guilty of spying for Saudi intelligence and financing terrorism by funding the group's militant wing inside Iran.

- Prominent Saudi figures, such as former intelligence chief Prince Turki al-Faisal, have openly attended and spoken at the MEK annual rallies, signaling political Alignment.

- Saudi Arabia provided massive financial, economic, and logistical support to Saddam Hussein’s Iraq during the Iran-Iraq War (1980–1988)

These are just a few examples.

Did Syria, Iran, Iraq and Lebanon has officially asked to join the pact? Lets avoid rants and talk on facts and logics. The news of turkey joining the pact is circulating since last year. It didn't happen in vaccum.

 

[vizier]

There is active military conflict going on with Saudi arabia with Yemen and to a limited extent with Iran by usa interference of attacking from within saudi airpspace.

Ukraine couldnt join nato because of ongoing conflict that automatically makes nato join war with Russia. So a country practically should not join a defense pact until there is no ongoing military conflict with another country. Another is for a defense pact it should be defensive. For example if saudi attacks yemen and yemen strikes back it doesnt work. That is why nato couldnt intervene in the usa ongoing conflict against Iran as usa was the starter of the conflict.

unless things are solved around saudi arabia the defense pact should not be complete. Otherwise it is automatically joining war against Yemen or even Iran for the other 2 countries Pakistan and Turkiye and somewhat illogical.

 

[KAL-EL]

Did Syria, Iran, Iraq and Lebanon has officially asked to join the pact? Lets avoid rants and talk on facts and logics. The news of turkey joining the pact is circulating since last year. It didn't happen in vaccum.

This ^^ talk about facts and logic, not just ranting.

 

[Jalz]

There is active military conflict going on with Saudi arabia with Yemen and to a limited extent with Iran by usa interference of attacking from within saudi airpspace.

Ukraine couldnt join nato because of ongoing conflict that automatically makes nato join war with Russia. So a country practically should not join a defense pact until there is no ongoing military conflict with another country. Another is for a defense pact it should be defensive. For example if saudi attacks yemen and yemen strikes back it doesnt work. That is why nato couldnt intervene in the usa ongoing conflict against Iran as usa was the starter of the conflict.

unless things are solved around saudi arabia the defense pact should not be complete. Otherwise it is automatically joining war against Yemen or even Iran for the other 2 countries Pakistan and Turkiye and somewhat illogical.

One of my concerns with this pact is that these countries will go to war with Iran before they go to war with Israel.

 

[Immortals]

 

[Starlord]

One of my concerns with this pact is that these countries will go to war with Iran before they go to war with Israel.

They just sign it today, they haven't even back to their own countries and you guys are fearing that Iran will get attacked, why? Also Iran will not be attacked by the Alliance. KSA might hit Iran because of Iran's attack on USA/KSA military bases, but this PACT initially will be used against a threat almost all 3 countries face, Terrorism. Pakistan from Taliban/BLA types, Turkish from PKK/YPG/ISIS types, and KSA from Houthis.

 

[Immortals]

One of my concerns with this pact is that these countries will go to war with Iran before they go to war with Israel.

• Pakistan is bankrupt and lives loan to loan
• Turkey’s currency is worthless like toliet paper
• Saudi Arabia’s entire income comes from a product Iran can readily destroy in the country.

You think Saudi Arabia can prop up itself and 2 other countries economically during a war? Doubtful.

Saudi’s interest is growing economically and staying away from war. It doesn’t want to be entangled in war and be destroyed like Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya.

MBS would be committing a big mistake by trying to get into a war with Iran when Israel/US with all their intel and firepower couldn’t overwhelm Iran then Turkey, Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia won’t be able to either.