Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds
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Flotilla
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Exactly. It is the epitome of the old adage "be careful what you wish for."
But the risk lies with Israel. It hasn't been able to handle Iran; what on earth do they think they can do against NATO's second-largest army?
We agree that Turkey neither can nor will respond to Israel, but tectonic plates are shifting; the Mecca agreements (providing financial muscle), combined with ten years of indigenous military production, will alter Turkey's status as a NATO vassal.
Saudi Arabia is purchasing technology without usage restrictions, while Turkey is gaining financial muscle.
Magi
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They avoid harming people like Qalibaf for a reason.
Persian Gulf
INT'L MOD
reports of missile alerts over Jebel Ali, UAE
Tumba
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KingQamaR
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MS Sandhu
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And Turkey can launch the retaliatory attack. Only in case, War prolongs, Pact may be activated.
Persian Gulf
INT'L MOD
likely launched by Yemen
Immortals
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Yeah Houthi’s have more guts than Iran these days.
Mojtaba is another version of his father.
Watandar
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Bad news for Trump a few months ahead of elections.
By Gregory Schmidt
Aug. 18, 2026Updated 10:39 a.m. ET
Bond yields jumped on Tuesday as the prospect of higher oil prices stemming from uncertainty in the Middle East pushed borrowing costs in the United States, Germany, Japan and elsewhere to multiyear highs. Investor unease could also be seen in stock markets, which fell around the world.
A shaky cease-fire between the United States and Iran officially ended on Monday, dimming the prospects for a reopening of the Strait of Hormuz, a critical waterway for shipments of oil and gas from the Persian Gulf. The fighting has also expanded to the Red Sea, where Iranian-backed Houthi militants have launched attacks on ships around another choke point for Middle Eastern oil.
The escalating war has pushed up oil prices, stoking fears that already stubborn inflation will remain elevated. That has added to worries about government debt and deficits and the enormous spending and borrowing by companies building artificial intelligence systems.
Bond Yields Jump and Stocks Slip as Iran Stalemate Unsettles Investors
By Gregory Schmidt
Aug. 18, 2026Updated 10:39 a.m. ET
Bond yields jumped on Tuesday as the prospect of higher oil prices stemming from uncertainty in the Middle East pushed borrowing costs in the United States, Germany, Japan and elsewhere to multiyear highs. Investor unease could also be seen in stock markets, which fell around the world.
A shaky cease-fire between the United States and Iran officially ended on Monday, dimming the prospects for a reopening of the Strait of Hormuz, a critical waterway for shipments of oil and gas from the Persian Gulf. The fighting has also expanded to the Red Sea, where Iranian-backed Houthi militants have launched attacks on ships around another choke point for Middle Eastern oil.
The escalating war has pushed up oil prices, stoking fears that already stubborn inflation will remain elevated. That has added to worries about government debt and deficits and the enormous spending and borrowing by companies building artificial intelligence systems.
retaxis
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China holds millions of barrels of crude oil on idle tankers near its coastline as a strategic buffer, driven by geopolitical conflict and transport changes. [1, 2, 3]
Why Tankers Wait Off the Coast
Why Tankers Wait Off the Coast
- Strategic Reserves: Millions of barrels of sensitive or discounted crude—largely sourced from Iran, Russia, and Venezuela—sit anchored in areas like the Yellow Sea and South China Sea. [1, 2]
- Market Shocks: Heightened military tensions and closed shipping lanes in the Middle East have forced a reliance on floating storage to protect local independent refiners from sudden supply shortages. [1, 2]
- Chokepoint Avoidance: Major state shippers have rerouted or idled vessels to bypass high-risk zones like the Strait of Hormuz and the Bab el-Mandeb Strait, shifting operations toward alternative marine transfer points. [1, 2, 3]
- China does not want to touch its strategic reserves in case war breaks out. China instead has been parking hundreds of oil tankers off its coast to prevent oil shortages.
Immortals
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Israel would set the Turkish military back years in the event of a war. Turkey knows this. Turkey’s military is well equipped but inexperienced in fighting anything that is not a Kurdish rebel. It has also been purged routinely for decades to prevent any Turkish general from being able to lead coup attempts against the political state.
Its size of troops is irrelevant because Turkey isn’t going to invade Israel nor can it project its forces far from its borders and protect them from air assaults, just look at the strikes in Syria that were 70KM from Turkish border.
Do you think Turkey could send troops to Golan and protect them? Of course not
What indigenous production? Turkey’s indigenous production is as indigenous as India’s. It’s all compromised of western components and high dependency on western supply chains.
If those get cut off, how will Turkey assemble its weapons? Open a TB-2 see how many foreign components are in it. Open a Turkey 5th Gen fighter same thing. Open a Turkey air defense missile same thing.
Being truly independent is hard in this day and age.
Also nearly all of Turkey’s military production is above ground. How long will those factories survive before being hit by Israeli drones or ALBMs? What happens when Turkish munitions run low and America or NATO refuses to supply them with raw materials or weapons?
Turkey doesn’t fight Israel because Israel is right next door and can do 500-1000 sorties a day and pummel Turkey’s military industrial complex.
Israel is tiny and can blanket its skies with air defense and rely on U.S. for protection. Turkey is much larger and mountainous and will face the same difficulties that Iran had with hiding its air defense teams and radars and covering its blind spots from its topography.
If Turkey attacks Israel, Israel will seize Cyprus from Turkey and then annex it. Turkey knows this. Already Cyprus is filled with Mossad agents setting up the conditions for such a day.
Jalz
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The turkish military isn't built to fight Israel tbh. Its a good military but to fight Israel(which will always have more advanced fighter jets since they enslaved america) you need asymmetric warfare.
