Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[lightning f57]

If that post doesn't read military failure not sure what else will.

 

[Flotilla]

SU-35 protect the nuclear program

And I quote;

The combination of the Sukhoi Su-35 (Flanker-E) fighter and the Vympel R-37M (AA-13 Axehead) ultra-long-range hypersonic missile represents one of the most lethal aviation pillars of the Russian Air Force's Anti-Access/Area Denial (A2/AD) doctrine. This duo seeks to neutralize Western air superiority by forcing key aircraft to retreat or face destruction before they can engage.

Su35 and R37M A2/AD

So.
assuming that Su35 deployed in Hamedan AB it is at 200 km straight line away from Pickaxe Mountain;

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And considering that a Su35 with 2 PTB3000 (external tanks) can fly 4.850 kilometers

With two PTB-3000

16550

4870

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/su-35-range-estimate.50310/

If that Su35S is loaded with at least 2 R37M (we know it has been also purchased by the IRIAF) witha weight of 510 kg each one and at least 2 R74 for self defense (105kg) (1020+210 = 1220 kg). (We can just say 1,5 tons of weapons).

If you decrease 850 km to the 4850 total range and divide it by two (because the fighter must go and turn back) you will realize that it can fly 2.000 km in a typical mission of just 2 fuel tanks and 2 + 2 long range and short range missiles at 900km/h of cruise speed.

At 200 km distance a pair of Su35 can patrol over Pickaxe mountain from Hamedan 2 hours.

If IRIAF just purchased 48 fighters, that means that you can comfortably protect 24/7 the triangle formed by Arak, Qom and Pickaxe Mountain. And maintain some other units for repairing or servicing.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

It is not the same. Syria first fell in a civil war and then bigger actors started to support different factions until finally the central Government collapsed.
Even if any foreign actor can push for a civil war inside Irán, the central power using IRGC would eventually succeed prevailing over the rebelión.
IMO that scenario is not plausible.

Without a strong and armed proxy or proxies ... a government supported both financially and militarily from outside. A hostile population with a minority cult government...

There is no parallel! None of these apply to Iran... in fact, all Iran has to do is secure periphery from hostile groups... basing, logistics financial or propaganda support from outside. Reconstruction is an own imperative and there is no need for a handout If anything... Germany got more radical, paved way for NAZIs, developed internally.

 

[lightning f57]

Its only going to keep going up for two reasons.
1. fighting resumed a few weeks ago and it takes around 45 days for the last oil tanker that was allowed free passage to touch down and supply oil. after that its all just some oil leak here and there which is no where enough.
2. China has a lot of oil tankers off its coastline and not willing to go deep into strategic reserves at all incase a war breaks out and you need the oil and gas for fighting. Therefore China will likely play the market as well and buy a lot of oil pushing up the prices.

So i don't think the price is going down anytime soon.

3rd reason strategic reserves going down further.

 

[Immortals]

 

[Immortals]

So.
assuming that Su35 deployed in Hamedan AB it is at 200 km straight line away from Pickaxe Mountain;
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Hamedan AB would be destroyed in the next war like it was destroyed in this war.

The only way Iran can keep its future fighter jets (if it ever procures any) safe will be thru mountain air bases like Oghab-44 built all over the country.

Anything above ground even in HAS will not stand a chance against an onslaught of PGMs and CMs.

You have to keep them underneath a mountain or you will lose them in time.

 

[Immortals]

 

[Immortals]

England?

I know that you are American by origin and you pretend of being Iranian.

But this non sense that you spewed from your filthy mouth is beyond hilarious.

Please, Mr US propaganda machine, tell us, on which universe, Iran's current leader was in England?

Here is sources around 2008-2009, ignoring any of the recent tabloid headlines since he assumed power.

Wikileaks

Cable: 08LONDON2169_a

The Man in the Shadow: Mojtaba Khamenei

www.pbs.org

There are sources discussing Mojtaba’s ties to Europe including England from 20+ years ago.

There was a period of time when Iranian officials could travel to western countries relatively hassle free from 1990-2010. None of this is shocking. Even Ali Larijani’s daughter was in the U.S. working as a Doctor in 2026 until the media uncovered her.

At the end of the day your loyalty should be with the nation, not a single individual who has yet to prove if he can steer the nation to prosperity and keep it safe from the U.S.

 

[UberShock]

 

[Watandar]

These Iranian officials need some message discipline. They have a habit of shooting their mouths off.

 

[Persian Gulf]

the status quo is not good for Iran

@muhammed45

 

[retaxis]

Not feasible. Iran doesn’t have accurate enough weapons to hit the Suez enough to shut down for long. It can’t even shut down the Persian gulf despite having a 800KM+ coastline with it.

Plus why would you want to anger Egypt and piss off one of the few Arab countries that are not involved in this war.

The best way to hurt the world is to launch a significant Ukraine like attack on Fujairah where about 2M barrels per day of oil bypass the Strait. Then having the Houthi’s go after Yanbu in the Red Sea where another 2-4MBPD pass.

That would remove 4-5MBPD of oil from markets and would def shock the world.

The Persian gulf is like 100km wide, the canal is only 300m. If iran get some precision tech from China and sink a few large cargo ships travelling through it would completely block the canal. Yes Egyptians will be pissed but they would know america started this war and iran is fighting for leverage and survival.

 

[Watandar]

The Persian gulf is like 100km wide, the canal is only 300m. If iran get some precision tech from China and sink a few large cargo ships travelling through it would completely block the canal. Yes Egyptians will be pissed but they would know america started this war and iran is fighting for leverage and survival.

Dude the Iranian objective is not to crash the world's economy, but to maintain political and economic pressure on Trump until he gives up and relents. Blocking the Suez canal and making another enemy of Egypt will not do that.

 

[BHAN85]

The Persian gulf is like 100km wide, the canal is only 300m. If iran get some precision tech from China and sink a few large cargo ships travelling through it would completely block the canal. Yes Egyptians will be pissed but they would know america started this war and iran is fighting for leverage and survival.

Iran doesnt need any precision tech from anywhere.

They successfully targeted Israel with less 100m accuracy.

They can do it, but disrupt Eurasia economy seems to be the main and only target of USA with Iran war, just like Ukraine war and tariffs.

But it will be always people buying the USA narrative of nonsense lies, repeating what they say without observe what they do.

 

[retaxis]

Dude the Iranian objective is not to crash the world's economy, but to maintain political and economic pressure on Trump until he gives up and relents. Blocking the Suez canal and making another enemy of Egypt will not do that.

To be honest I'm not sure what Iran's plans are. Is it to boost crude oil prices? Is it to make the world suffer so they blame america for the war? Is it to hurt american consumers pockets and turn american allies against them?

Anyway I was just brainstorming not really saying its something that iran could or would do. Just throwing ideas onto the white board and most of it might not stick.