Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[HAIDER]

Yes, you're right. It is impossible to happen.

Just like it was impossible for the US to destroy Iran's nuclear program.
Just like it was impossible for Israel to defeat Hamas.
Just like it was impossible for the US to dare to kill Khamenei.
Just like it was impossible for Israel to launch a war on Iran.

It is absolutely impossible to disarm Hezbollah, Hashd Al-Shaabi, and defeating Houthis of Yemen is not possible even in theory, let alone in practice. You are right.

Read HAMAS history, how many times it is destroyed. Forget rest.....even US destroyed Taliban. How many timed ?
...the outcome ?

 

[ShapurII]

Read HAMAS history, hoe many times it is destroyed. Forget rest.....even US destroyed Taliban. How many timed ?
...the outcome ?

Hamas wasn't even a big deal before 2006. They were never defeated like now. Gaza is a pile of rubble now.

The Taliban raised to power in 90s with the help of the US and they were brought back to power in 2021 with the US decision.

 

[HAIDER]

Hamas wasn't even a big deal before 2006. They were never defeated like now. Gaza is a pile of rubble now.

The Taliban raised to power in 90s with the help of the US and they were brought back to power in 2021 with the US decision.

Yes, there is always a reason behind public or social movement. With the weapons you can't defeat.

 

[ShapurII]

Yes, there is always a reason behind public or social movement. With the weapons you can't defeat.

I believe it depends on your definition of winning and defeat.

If the Palestinians have failed to liberate Palestinian territories after nearly 8 decades and have lost Gaza as well, then it seems to me that you can defeat people with weapons. Weapons are the reason that the West Bank didn't join Gaza and new Intifada has not happened again. And this is not a new phenomenon, as it has happened countless times in history, including recent history.

 

[HAIDER]

I believe it depends on your definition of winning and defeat.

If the Palestinians have failed to liberate Palestinian territories after nearly 8 decades and have lost Gaza as well, then it seems to me that you can defeat people with weapons. Weapons are the reason that the West Bank didn't join Gaza and new Intifada has not happened again. And this is not a new phenomenon, as it has happened countless times in history, including recent history.

Palatinian defeated but they still on ground, they migrated in surrounding states. But will surge again. Law of nature. Israel used absolute power due to GCC and US backing.

 

[ShapurII]

Palatinian defeated but they still on ground, they migrated in surrounding states.

Isn't that the whole point of ethnic cleansing and genocide? to reduce the population of a particular group of people in a region?

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

 

[FIsa]

It would be pretty funny if China turns around and says not only they will ignore the sanctions, they will officially start buying Iranian oil. Just to test the americans.

I know that will not happen but would be a pretty powerful move to watch and officially end the US sanction power in 1 stroke

 

[Immortals]

It would be pretty funny if China turns around and says not only they will ignore the sanctions, they will officially start buying Iranian oil. Just to test the americans.

China is not some anti imperialist power. China has reduced its oil imports to save the world reserve drainage.

Xi is a western appeaser much like Khamenai was a western appeaser. They are anti imperialist only in speech and talk, in action they walk a very non confrontational line.

People need to realize China has no desire to confront the U.S.

 

[Immortals]

 

[Indos]

China is not some anti imperialist power. China has reduced its oil imports to save the world reserve drainage.

Xi is a western appeaser much like Khamenai was a western appeaser. They are anti imperialist only in speech and talk, in action they walk a very non confrontational line.

People need to realize China has no desire to confront the U.S.

China is already confronting US in economy, technology, Artificial Intelligent, diplomacy, etc

They reduce oil import due to countries follow their own interest. If they dont do that, it will hurt their economy, as simple as like that.

All countries except Iranian hardliner, Russian, and African oil exporter like Nigeria want Hormuz to open

War is just last resort, when we are forced to do so

 

[Watandar]

China is already confronting US in economy, technology, Artificial Intelligent, diplomacy, etc

They reduce oil import due to countries follow their own interest. If they dont do that, it will hurt their economy, as simple as like that.

All countries except Iranian hardliner, Russian, and African oil exporter like Nigeria want Hormuz to open

War is just last resort, when we are forced to do so

Strait of Hormuz was open before the war.

 

[Shags101]

Strait of Hormuz was open before the war.

People tend to forget this war originally began with Bibi and Trump attacking with support from quite a few GCC states Jordan(how could they have not known let’s be real did they think American forces were moving tons of military hardware just for the heck of it) we are at this point pure and simple greed,egotism and cowardice

 

[Indos]

Strait of Hormuz was open before the war.

Yes it is. Yes US under Trump attack Iran as it is actually what he wants if you see what he said repeatedly when he was still much younger.

But if you close Hormuz, every body will be your enemy, including Pakistan as it hurts Pakistan economy

Closing Hormuz is stupid idea as it will prolong the war forever when US is already want to exit. Now Trump uses economic santion including blockading Iranian oil export

You guys like a boy when I was kid. I use force to hurt a boy in my age (junior high school) that try to insult me. As I have had martial art practice since Elementary school and pretty good on that, he cannot fight me by hands and legs, But he keeps using word while I kick and punch him due to his own ego. I dont use maximum force and make him in hospital due to I have still moral not to do that. You guys are that boy....

 

[Watandar]

Yes it is. Yes US under Trump attack Iran as it is actually what he wants if you see what he said repeatedly when he was still much younger.

But if you close Hormuz, every body will be your enemy, including Pakistan as it hurts Pakistan economy

Closing Hormuz is stupid idea as it will prolong the war forever when US is already want to exit. Now Trump uses economic santion including blockading Iranian oil export

You guys like a boy when I was kid. I use force to hurt a boy in my age (junior high school) that try to insult me. As I have had martial art practice since Elementary school and pretty good on that, he cannot fight me by hands and legs, But he keeps using word while I kick and punch him due to his own ego. I dont use maximum force and make him in hospital due to I have still moral not to do that. You guys are that boy....

You sound like an Indonesian concerned about his country's economy and gas bill. That is not the concern of Iranians who are fighting a war for survival. Neither do the Americans care about Indonesia or somebody else, because otherwise they would not have started this un-necessary war.

You lack the courage to act or speak against America and so show up elsewhere to lecture others.