Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

reports that Iran targeted 7-8 oil tankers today

“Targeted” = 1 ship hit 20 got thru.

The strait is so open that they now run the escort operation in day time as well and no longer just at night.

Iran is slowly being sieged like Gaza and Yemen.
 
China is either pressurising Usa Israel to not harm their interests and investments in Iran,

What Chinese investments in Iran? Name one sufficiently large Chinese government investment project in Iran.

China got kicked out of Chabhar Port, Natural gas fields, and the oil industry for not doing SHIT! They just stood around not implementing their contracts because they were afraid of Captain America.

China floods iran with cheap China goods and the lower tier category of Chinese cars. Chinese teapot refineries buy Iranian oil because they got big discounts.

China doesn’t have anything in Iran it is afraid to lose besides whatever is in the Chinese embassy in Tehran.

China cheerleaders need to take a break. Xi is as harmless as a Panda. He was born into a very well connected with Mao family and was a ‘princeling’. The man didn’t come from the same hardship that Mao, Stalin, Castro, Chavez, Khomeini, and others were raised in. He’s got no killer instinct and like Khamenai Sr. He has no desire for confrontation with America.
 
What Chinese investments in Iran? Name one sufficiently large Chinese government investment project in Iran.

China got kicked out of Chabhar Port, Natural gas fields, and the oil industry for not doing SHIT! They just stood around not implementing their contracts because they were afraid of Captain America.

China floods iran with cheap China goods and the lower tier category of Chinese cars. Chinese teapot refineries buy Iranian oil because they got big discounts.

China doesn’t have anything in Iran it is afraid to lose besides whatever is in the Chinese embassy in Tehran.

China cheerleaders need to take a break. Xi is as harmless as a Panda. He was born into a very well connected with Mao family and was a ‘princeling’. The man didn’t come from the same hardship that Mao, Stalin, Castro, Chavez, Khomeini, and others were raised in. He’s got no killer instinct and like Khamenai Sr. He has no desire for confrontation with America.
Nonsense, it's the Iranian gov that didn't want to implement the 25 years $400 billion economic contracts so far and gave good business deals to EU and India.
 
Nonsense, it's the Iranian gov that didn't want to implement the 25 years $400 billion economic contracts so far and gave good business deals to EU and India.

There are no Indian or EU companies investment major amounts of capital in Iran. EU companies haven’t operated in Iran over 15 years. India’s biggest investment was Chabhar port that China lost due to Xi being afraid of sanctions.

Most of that “strategic deal” of $400B was just oil purchases being factored into it to make it look much bigger than that it actually was.
 
Nonsense, it's the Iranian gov that didn't want to implement the 25 years $400 billion economic contracts so far and gave good business deals to EU and India.
China is one of the few countries that always supported Iran despite Iran always trying to cozy up with EU/US. Iran wants those sanctions uplifted so they cozy up with them and spite China but in the end we are at where we are and Iranians in Iran are thankful of China. The Iranians who left after their shah was overthrown hate muslims and Iranian government and anyone who supports them.
 
Gas is already on Average 4.30$ per gallon here, with new rise in tension and attacks on tankers, expecting it to hit close to 5$ soon... don't even want to see the disel prices, it scared me even more than Evil dead movie when i was a kid.
 
not trying to be that guy but bad twitter feed regarding the hits honestly hate twitter im about to deactivate it or do people call it x now
 
IRIB host's revelation about Iran's failure to fire on Emirati oil tankers: Iran doesn't fire on ADNOC ships at all!



Even Iranian state TV news host is calling out the government!
 
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There are no Indian or EU companies investment major amounts of capital in Iran. EU companies haven’t operated in Iran over 15 years. India’s biggest investment was Chabhar port that China lost due to Xi being afraid of sanctions.

Most of that “strategic deal” of $400B was just oil purchases being factored into it to make it look much bigger than that it actually was.
There is NO $400B deal implemented.

There was an MOU, Iran used it to leverage a deal with the West, known as the JCPOA.

And then Iran gets $50B oil money frozen.

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The JCPOA Opening (2015–2018)
    • The Nuclear Deal: Following the 2015 Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), the EU lifted nuclear-related economic sanctions. [1, 2]
    • The Investment Rush: European corporations quickly returned to the Iranian market. French energy major TotalEnergies signed a $4.7 billion agreement for the South Pars gas field, automakers like Peugeot and Daimler formed local partnerships, and Germany's Siemens secured locomotive infrastructure deals. [1, 2]
 
There is NO $400B deal implemented.

There was an MOU, Iran used it to leverage a deal with the West, known as the JCPOA.

Listen, if you are going to act confident about something at least get it right.

First of all the MoU was signed and is technical in standing by both parties (although China has done nothing).

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The 25 year Strategic Deal Iran signed with China was in March 2021, 6 years after Iran signed JCPOA!


So please explain how Iran used the China deal that happened 6 years after JCPOA as leverage to get the West to sign JCPOA. Did Iran invent a Time Machine?
 
Israel, Russia and US are always the only powers in the modern era with killer instincts, no fear of death or ending the world and zero fear to escalate to the max. These three are also much more religious than East Asian powers, Western European powers. Middle Eastern powers/theocracies lack the weight, influence and military strength to initiate wars against these powers and are always either the targets, victims or vassals of these three (in this case just two - US and Israel).

US and Israel are also both economically, politically and militarily powerful and influencial globally. Xi and China + Chinese generally are extremely afraid of war and confrontation. Immortal is 100% right about China being capable but completely 100% ball-less cowards in the sense of never wishing to escalate or bring things to the max. Chinese people have extreme fear of death.

Modern Chinese leaders and children are so afraid of even losing material status and wealth let alone their lives. China will always avoid war and western powers know this very well and know they can always push China around quite far and to quite an extreme and unfair degree. This has always been true throughout history and western and Israeli elite classes are cunning, learned people unlike their general population. China may have all the strength in the world but a mental, psychological weakling.

Russia without the strength will jump into existential wars without a second thought. If stupid, at least it's somewhat respectable. Iranian leaders aren't much better than Chinese ones. Absolute fear of what the west can and may do to them. Chinese leaders enjoy unimaginably lavish lifestyles. Do you think they will risk China's build up for war against crazy people who are convinced they are "God's chosen ones" and will go to heaven? Zero chance.
 


Not sure what to make of this.

Bhai.......not to take anybody's side here cuz you know wes just pendu with our own interests/ dramay.......mager USN key waqaee bhund lugga dee hae Iranio nay.

I mean dis messed up yo!

Why don't we also ask Irani turani to give us dis mysterious Qasim Bashir mayzile no?

Seedha chala deen Indians key bhund k ander!

Wadda fakhr hae na Indians ko apni navy per?................. :p
 
The IRGC lacks the courage to launch effective attacks against U.S. naval vessels or to intercept U.S. aircraft, and most of its cruise missiles appear to be easily shot down by U.S. forces. Realizing they no longer need to fear Iranian attacks, Arab nations are exporting crude oil through the Strait of Hormuz at a furious pace and raking in massive amounts of dollars; the current situation represents a total defeat for Iran. Why doesn't Iran deploy uuv to sink ships indiscriminately, as seen in the conflicts in Yemen and Ukraine? The IRGC remains trapped in the flawed mindset of escalation control, causing Iran's red lines to be pushed back indefinitely. If this retreat continues, it could eventually lead to a future where the world condones, and even applauds a U.S. nuclear strike on Tehran.
 

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