Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Flotilla]

even if IRI retards finally respond now (unlikely), it's too late. they already showed they are willing to be submissive punching bags and are utterly DESPERATE for a deal and TERRIFIED of a return to war.

horrendous.

Be calm. AFAIK there are being bombed costal positions, probably they're hitting or trying to hit antiship cruise missile launchers.

Let's be honest. IRGC is hitting vessels by half a dozen daily. Would US not respond?.

It will escalate when someone hit other targets, and again, seems IRGC doesn't want to hit a carrier, destroyer or arab airbase used by US.

It is frustrating (to me also) but has a logic.

It must be attacked the AH64 and MH60R flying low. That would be a more than legitimate target and revenge for killing Iranian personnel.

 

[Potato]

I see this all the opposite way- why US ATTENPTED to do land blockade on Iran AFTER military strikes? I believe US was supposed to setup a blockade first then do military strikes, combined with US asking China to "use its leverage on Iran"to stop the war ,AND JD Vance the idiot initiating secret negotiations with Rezaei, all to the the war,that all tells me the military campaign against Iran has failed so far, which is why Iran isn't budging much - daily strikes on mobile AD systems in Qeshm that Iran can easily replace and are cheap won't offset the military disadvantage the US seems to have put itself in vis a vis Iran. @Potato and @Lulldapull so far seem right that US has lost and can't turn it's loss against Iran into a win anytome soon. US also striking Iran, then pausing then striking against is really bad for UD because it confirms US had no confidence or determination in it's military campaign against Iran,so actually US should just declare the war over asap, who is what Americans actually want.

If this above is generally correct, the next interesting thing will be-, which Arab country in the gulf will submit to Iran ,aka switch loyalty publicly from US to Iran first?

As an Indian and a Hindu, I don't have any ideological bias in favour of either IRGC or Israel and US. From my perspective, the defeat of US and Israel in this war is quite evident, and it appears that the conflict is approaching its end, with Trump potentially emerging with egg on his face and further reinforcing the perception that US is a declining superpower.

However, there is another possibility: US could eventually re-enter the conflict with better-coordinated regional allies and a more carefully planned strategy. But I don't think such an alliance can be built overnight. Establishing that level of military coordination and strategic cooperation could take years.

 

[ShapurII]

Trump wont be in office in 2-3 years.

Yes, but there's no reason to assume that Trump is an anomaly when it comes to the US animosity with Iran. I believe the US war with Iran is more or less a bipartisan decision, also supported by the deep state.

Israel killed most people in Gaza under the Biden administration. Also, the Biden administration didn't return to the JCPOA after Trump left the office. There's no reason to believe this time will be different.

 

[Persian Gulf]

 

[ShapurII]

As an Indian and a Hindu, I don't have any ideological bias in favour of either IRGC or Israel and US. From my perspective, the defeat of US and Israel in this war is quite evident, and it appears that the conflict is approaching its end, with Trump potentially emerging with egg on his face and further reinforcing the perception that US is a declining superpower.

However, there is another possibility: US could eventually re-enter the conflict with better-coordinated regional allies and a more carefully planned strategy. But I don't think such an alliance can be built overnight. Establishing that level of military coordination and strategic cooperation could take years.

The US lost the kinetic war. Now they're hoping to tighten the screws on Iran by imposing naval, aerial and land blockade. Iran hasn't been able to defeat the US blockade yet.

 

[Flotilla]

The US lost the kinetic war. Now they're hoping to tighten the screws on Iran by imposing naval, aerial and land blockade. Iran hasn't been able to defeat the US blockade yet.

It won't. US Navy It is the largest Navy in History.
The only way It is circumvent It. Smuggling, reopening land connexions and probably hitting a DDG would convince Pentagon that the cost It is too high and the benefit doesn't with.
If someone can do It, It is Irán. Let's see if Irán can convince neighboring countries to reopening frontiers or allow trade by other land routes and after deceive the blockade hit one or two vessels to make the blockade counterproductive.

 

[kobra]

So Iran has developed the policy of Ostrichs. Hide its head when attacked or in that case deny the attack.. strange, such a tall claims by top generals and thats the result.

 

[Persian Gulf]

TBC if Iran was behind the attack. weird if so.

 

[Persian Gulf]

 

[KingQamaR]

I don’t get it

Let’s call it 2 tracks at once

Track 1. Bombs by night by US - Qesham Island

Track 2. Talks by day (Qatar)

And Isn’t it interesting is Irans willingness to absorb the strikes rather than Retaliate?

It’s weird, they are both trading blows but are not calling it a war ….