Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Alter_Ego]

Where do they go and land?

On large open highways

 

[jauk]

@Persian Gulf @jauk @Liquidator @MastanKhan @tsunset

I wanted to discuss a scenario

lets suppose that Iran proceeds with another BM attack and premise is to attack IDF/AF which played the crucial role in Attacking IRAN and causing casualties.

Iran Launches major BM strikes in very large numbers on all IDF/AF airbases and civilian airports. very high saturated strikes hitting everything on the bases.

Iran targets Runways/Taxiways and they are successfully put out of commission since the BM attack is multiple waves 4-5 hours long. yes they will be repaired but it will take time always. IDF/AF as soon as BM strikes were launched all its serviceable aircraft were put in air.

Now quite large number of aircraft are in air, with all Airbases/airports in Entity are damaged heavily and runways and taxiways are damaged. (military and civilian)

Where do they go and land?

Egypt, Jordan and Cyprus/Turkey??

what would be the status?

If Iran indeed disables ALL (airports, landing strips, roads and highways, etc? Really?) that’s a good question. I’ve been thinking the same. I’d say Cyprus.

This actually brings up a good point. Knocking these out will be difficult and proper AD is the best solution.

 

[Tamerlane]

Can you stop killing hundreds of thousands of innocent muslims in Syria with christian Russian military helping then we can take Iran more seriously

Iran doesnt care about GAZA and sunni muslims in Palestine
Iran using HAMAS as a proxy against Israel for Iranian interests

As a well wisher of both Turkey and Iran I find it sad that Turkey has become such a confused country. After all, it was the Ottoman Empire that led the Muslim world for centuries. At that time Turkish nationalism was discouraged in order to accommodate Muslims, and non-Muslims from different nationalities.

Now what? There’s no clarity about who Turkey supports. If the EU had taken you guys you would probably have said goodbye to Islam forever. You’re still in NATO the world’s biggest enemy of the Islamic world, responsible for killing millions.

Today Iran is the only Islamic country fighting for 2 billion Muslims and you mock it. Mocking shaheed leaders who gave their lives for Palestinians who no one else is helping. Very sad. Like the saying goes: How the mighty have fallen.

 

[MMM-E]

Ok, can you stop supplying the entity with Azeri oil and then we can take you more seriously and stop derailing the topic please?

Who delete my posts ?
American , Israeli , European , Arab and Turkish members can not talk about Iran here

why this thread moved to Iranian section ?

We dont want to see Iranian propaganda on PDF

 

[Musings]

When Iran supported christian Armenia during invasion of Karabakh only Israel sold weapons to muslim Azerbaijan to libarate its occupied lands from christian Armenia


Can you stop killing hundreds of thousands of innocent muslims in Syria with christian Russian military helping then we can take Iran more seriously

Iran doesnt care about GAZA and sunni muslims in Palestine
Iran using HAMAS as a proxy against Israel for Iranian interests


Who delete my posts ?
American , Israeli , European , Arab and Turkish members can not talk about Iran here

why this thread moved to Iranian section ?

We dont want to see Iranian propaganda on PDF

Look at the title and look at what you are posting. I dont wish to thread ban you - but stay on topic

 

[Musings]

Other users have started talking about Turkiye and you are saying nothing to them

Iranian and other users talking about Turkiye what they want

but You dont allow other users to critize Iran

stop delete my posts

Last warning. Look at the title and stick to it. If you wantt to talk about Turkey and Syria - then start a new thread

 

[TallGuy]

If Iran indeed disables ALL (airports, landing strips, roads and highways, etc? Really?) that’s a good question. I’ve been thinking the same. I’d say Cyprus.

This actually brings up a good point. Knocking these out will be difficult and proper AD is the best solution.

Actually, Entity Super weapon is IDF/AF (men and machine)

They have 7 Full fledge AFB with 3x3 Runway-Taxiways and around 5 x Airports and satellite strips

The entity is small.

A concentrated BM strike 12 x Airports/AFBs with goal to disable the Runways and Taxiways for at least 10hrs.

As they are forced to land other countries which effectively takes out equipment and men out of service for critical 24-48Hrs.

what are the laws? lets say a fighter plane land in Jordan. what is the law? is there a possibility that aircraft will be impounded? or it will take more time?

 

[LongLiveIran]

There is some flawed thinking in your post.

It will take years to rebuild critical infrastructure and do not assume that even the US/Germany will be able to somehow pay the 100s of billions of US dollars easily to rebuild what Iran can destroy in the entity within days.

A destroyed powerplant/water plant takes many years to build back. Just look at how long their infrastructure takes to build and no even with "fast track", it will still take 2-3 years to get these things back.

In the meantime, what are the hundreds of thousands of productive critical settlers that make the entity function going to be doing? They will flee back to the comforts of the west and there won't be much productive ones left. There is only so much "hand holding" US/West can do if the Zionists themselves do not want to stay and make it work.

You are Iranian and I am an outsider who is a well-wisher. Of course we wish that Iran was more technologically advanced but we should not overestimate what this little pipsqueak entity could handle even with full western help.

Iran will make the right choices in the end and it will not be cowed like some other unnamed states in the region have been for decades.

PS - Yes in a full fledged war Iran will take care of those little traitors and they and the US know it.

Yes, don't you think 2-3 years is fast compared to 2-3 decades? There are still cities in the Khuzestan province in Iran that are suffering from the damage caused by the Iraq-Iran war.

I don't think settlers in Israel are there because they love Israel or believe in the promised land. That's just the facade. Israel is a colonial state where your average David or Jacob from Brooklyn or Manhattan goes there because they will give him a free house with a high paying job. Once the ping-pong is over, your average Western asshole will return to Palestine again to steal their wealth with no consequences, particularly now that the West is going down the toilet economically. We know that Jews love money, don't we? (Who doesn't?)

Iran needs nuclear deterrence and when nuclear deterrence is talked about, we are not talking about one or two gun-type bombs here and there. We need a total destruction power that exceeds 1 megaton. Now that could be 10 warheads each 100 kilotons or 50 warheads each 20 kilotons. We need a reliable nuclear strategy if we want to fight with the West. Because like it or not, once the Zionist entity gets beaten badly, they will get involved.

Few people know this, but the USN got directly involved in favor of Saddam when the Iranian navy destroyed the Iraqi Navy and was imposing a blockade on Iraqi oil exports. Has the US attitude changed since then?

 

[TallGuy]

On large open highways

its not easy,

ok if they land then what they will be out of service for 36-48hrs.

It requires extensive training to land on Roads and i have not seen/heard Exercise regards to that.

Dispersed operations never tested or done by IDF/AF

 

[LongLiveIran]

its not easy,

ok if they land then what they will be out of service for 36-48hrs.

It requires extensive training to land on Roads and i have not seen/heard Exercise regards to that.

Dispersed operations never tested or done by IDF/AF

Cyprus is a viable option. That's why Hezbollah threatened Cyprus out of the blue.

 

[TallGuy]

Cyprus is a viable option. That's why Hezbollah threatened Cyprus out of the blue.

ok

what is the law in regards to that - lets IDF/AF fighters land in Cyprus? then what if there is no chance of sappers squads already placed and attacks Cyprus (AFB - I think its British)

 

[Flotilla]

My guess is that US deeper state signaled Israel by engaging with Iran diplomatically that US has its own interests in the region which do not match with Israeli moves

This, friend, it is core in the Israel-Iran engagement.
Iran must dig in that rift and extend it until the falling of the Netanyahu/Gvir/Smotricht self destructive cabinet. Any future other radical government will expand the grievances between any possible democrat government or at least in the UN if Harris is not elected.

But Iran is not prepared to engage vis a vis militarily with a Israel supported by USAF/US Navy and some Europeans air forces (it is discarded spanish one and probably italian or greek ones) german and united kingdom being not european would follow. Any further scalation in TP III would let the door open to a possible coalition Led by US.

The conflict must be protracted and the priorities should be;

1º.- Help HZ and houthies to win the war.
2º.- Rebuild the IRIAF as you suggested many times.
3º.- Reinforce the IADS with dozens of Bavar 373 battalions enough to cover nearly all Iran airspace.
4º.- Develop military nuclear capability.

But answering directly and in a higher scale to Netanyahu would be a mistake. Iran could answer in Lebanon transferring new weapons and training personnel for the volunteers (I am pretty sure there are converging hundreds of volunteers among the entire Middle East and beyond) and reinforcing anti aerial capabilities of Houthies. There was announced some months ago a new antiship missile by IRGCN probably stealth or supersonic. Those can be transfered to Houthies for example.

 

[Mehdipersian]

its not easy,

ok if they land then what they will be out of service for 36-48hrs.

It requires extensive training to land on Roads and i have not seen/heard Exercise regards to that.

Dispersed operations never tested or done by IDF/AF

Cyprus is a viable option. That's why Hezbollah threatened Cyprus out of the blue.

There are many American air bases in the region. Jordan is also completely under the control of the Jews. Even Egypt or Saudi Arabia may cooperate with Israel.

 

[Farhas2000]

Iran used HAMAS as a proxy to attack on Israel
and 7 october Hamas attack was a silly and unnecessary move

RESULT : GAZA was destroyed , over 45.000 Palestians were killed also LEBANON under heavy attack

Sure, Hamas was armed by Iran, but it wasn't its dog.

I think Hamas acted on their own, makes no sense for them not to coordinate with Hezbollah if they were controlled by Iran.

Given how compromised Hezbollah was, if Hamas told Hezbollah anything, Israel would have known about it.

 

[tsunset]

This is compiled from various sources in Wikipedia:

October 2024 Israeli strikes on Iran - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Wikipedia blacklisted all Iranian source and if they are used, they will write "unreliable" near it and deem it as fake or propaganda

This article relies exclusively on Israeli sponsored outlets such as the WSJ, Axios, Times of Israel, newsweek/other trash and even the most hardcore zionist think tanks such as The Washington Institute

This is like using PressTV and Al Mayadeen as main sources for Israeli affairs, or Sputnik/RT for Ukrainian affairs

They claim that Iran lost all its AD and that IDF did "massive damage" and "crippled" BM production which is very primitive in terms of propaganda

I suggest everyone to read this interesting post in the talk section:

Talk:October 2024 Israeli strikes on Iran - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

In the October 2024 Iranian strikes against Israel, the article writes (definitely not in the lead) about the israeli military censorship following the attack:

In some cases, the IDF censor barred Israeli media from publishing the exact locations of missile impacts and the extent of the damage.

while in this article, the article is writing (within the lead) about the Iranian military censorship:

Iran quickly aimed to downplay the attacks, providing minimal coverage and threatened to hand out prison sentences to civilians who shared evidence of the strikes to "hostile" media. This was possibly done to "save face" and prevent further escalation.