Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Iran must deploy a large number of MRBMs at 100 times the cost of Israel, which can effectively bomb Iran at low cost by approaching the border just in time while hiding behind the U.S. military.
Even a child can see that it is impossible to win in such an exchange.
That is why Hezbollah in Lebanon was the lifeline of Iran's security.
Now that it has been effectively neutralized, the options it can take are extremely limited.
This would never have happened if the Iranian leadership had sent massive reinforcements to Lebanon with a sense of urgency during the year between the beginning of the war and the start of Israel's full-scale invasion.
Unfortunately, I see no way to undo this fatal strategic error.
 
Yemen's Houthis now are playing a huge role... Hezbollah-Israel ceasefire to end soon...
Yes, I guess the IRGC applied its decentralized, mosaic command and control systems in southern Lebanon, which kept Hezbollah fully "ready" and prepared. Israel will lose more soldiers quicker soon, esp. if its forces dont stop strikes in Lebanon and withdraw soldiers in Lebanese territory.
What is the strategic situation for Iran to launch TP3? Even if Trump becomes President, the US military power doesn't suddenly increase overnight, so if TP3 is to be launched, the timing is before Trump's inauguration.
Good points.
A big war will hurt Israel more,
and this maybe what i think Iran is using as leverage in some secret negotiations with US atm- US most likely doesn't want Iran to hit Israel, period, so Iran has some leverage probably in its potential TP3- it has the authority, public support, rationale, etc to mount a TP3- obviously Iran's calculations around timing is a huge part of TP3 discussion and potential occurrence.
as they still haven't fully wiped out Hezbollah and the Houthis and are about to challenge Iran 1vs3.
Yea, its crazy. Gaza is still fighting so brave, OMG- i thought the Taliban were the strongest fighters in the world, i can say its Gaza fighters today, no question in my mind anymore.
Sure, the US will make it 2vs3, but the US can't pour all resources into the Iran war, because they have to keep forces against Russia and China,
True.
so I think Iran can win this war if they are willing to take casualties for it.
Yea, but i sense Iran still prefers not to enter a war with US if it can avoid it- but i agree with you, Iran at this level of military power will eventually wear out US in a war, and kind of win because of outlasting US(due to US withdrawal from the conflict area).
The problem is Gulf countries and Saudi which have substantial air forces and can coordinate with USAF.
If they start "coordinating", Iran will hit all their air bases, so there is the sitting duck theory going on, and also if some of their jets get shot in Iranian airspace, that will demoralize their military and population, which will force the Arab air forces to cease operations. Why no Arab, US or Israeli air force jets haven't entered Iranian airspace? The last Israeli batch of fighters stayed far away, in Iraq, to fire their payload (missiles) at Iran, they never dared to enter Iranian air space- because its vast, so their chances of getting shot out from traveling too far (on their way out of Iran) after bombing/ attacking is higher than we think.
Iran can win easily if it can make Arab Sunnis side with it, but how?
Iran would probably not win easily, but Iran can still do alot of undesireable damage to its enemies. Because of Geography, Iran has an advantage in any war if its fought in its border areas and territory, just like the Houthis do at the moment also.
 
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Why is every General older than the average Senior Citizen in Iran? Why do we have 65-70+ year old general not retired? This guy is 68 years old!

In US, a general mandatory has to retire by 62 and it can be extended by Congress by waiver (twice) to 68, IIRC.

In Iran they go until they feel like it and rotate thru any position they can find. This is not beneficial to the armed forces at all.
 
Just because you've not seen Iran strike Israel with accuracy means Iran can't do it? That's false and inconsistent logic- all middle east players act afraid once they feel Iran Is about to fire BMs at them,including US- that proves something. Iran's missile threat isn't based mainly on bluffing and intimidation.
They’ve never published any news nor allowed any media and blocked satellite images of Iranian strikes.

And then the coludzz get all gnarly and disenfranchised…..

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Why is every General older than the average Senior Citizen in Iran? Why do we have 65-70+ year old general not retired? This guy is 68 years old!

In US, a general mandatory has to retire by 62 and it can be extended by Congress by waiver (twice) to 68, IIRC.

In Iran they go until they feel like it and rotate thru any position they can find. This is not beneficial to the armed forces at all.
Because maybe they are the power behind Khamenei? Seems they been there since the beginning who's gonna tell them to step down?
 
Why is every General older than the average Senior Citizen in Iran? Why do we have 65-70+ year old general not retired? This guy is 68 years old!

In US, a general mandatory has to retire by 62 and it can be extended by Congress by waiver (twice) to 68, IIRC.

In Iran they go until they feel like it and rotate thru any position they can find. This is not beneficial to the armed forces at all.


Because they have experience of almost one decade war since their teenage time
 
Did Hajizadeh say so ? I dont care what General Pepperoni would say
'hundreds of missiles' is official state media line:


as for Hajizadeh, right after TP2 he said any mistake by the enemy will draw “a harsh and regret-inducing response” from the IRGC

guess killing 5 Iranians doesn't count as a mistake
 
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Report | Unprecedented Speech by the Speaker of the Iraqi Parliament Addressing Netanyahu:“You Bastard! Do you threaten us?! We are a nation that considers martyrdom an honor and dignity.”Mahmoud al-Mashhadani, Speaker of the Iraqi Parliament:

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Sometimes, you don't wish for those things cause you might get them.
 
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first one is being widely reported by low quality sources (usual type)

second one is old news from a few days ago

I remember before TP2 one news channel said something like in the coming hours we will see a massive attack, and all the usual channels started to spread it, then nothing happened and the tv anchor had to clarify he had no special information and he meant in the coming weeks and months maybe
 
first one is being widely reported by low quality sources (usual type)

second one is old news from a few days ago

I remember before TP2 one news channel said something like in the coming hours we will see a massive attack, and all the usual channels started to spread it, then nothing happened and the tv anchor had to clarify he had no special information and he meant in the coming weeks and months maybe
Dude you're sucha buzzkill. Way to ruin it for EVERYONE in here.

Oh well... TP3 is still coming maybe not as soon as everyone expects.
 

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