Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[925boy]

you are discounting the use of tactical nukes this time.

US has never used tactical nukes in a war against a non-nuclear state, so that is a hypothetical threat that isn't likely to be realized.

it is quite possible we will see nukes this time,

hypothetically....even when US lost the Afghanistan war to central Asian fighters who traverse mountains as insurgency methods, it never used nukes, so why now?
How do you think the world,especially nuclear powers will react to US using nukes? IT will likelty not go well for US and its interests.. look at the shame and isolation Israel is feeling from genociding Gaza- it cant shake it off, even with US propaganda and support, so that gives us a hint of what will happen to US and its interests and allies if it uses nukes- nukes today are mostly for bluffs, US must fight conventionally against a conventional military, like Iran.

If US was confident in its conventional military capabilities, like it tells us it is against Ansarullah currently, why would it need to use taboo weapons like nukes? A tired and lost superpower calculates wrongly and loses more and more,before it crashes.

israel and usa will never let iran have even enriched uranium.

iran already has it, and US cant do crap about it, especially at sites like Fordow- time and weapons can't help US much now.

its not about civilian use at this time, its a out not even a gram of uranium of plutonium can stay there,

LOL- lets see US enforce this them.

Trump already went from threatening Iran before negotiations to Iranian negotiations saying US negotiators didnt make threats- US is not confident in its military power, especially against "tough nut" countries like Iran (i mean, US already showed its afraid of military entanglements in weaker countries like Sudan..)

so the infrastructure has to be taken down or completely destroyed..

LETS SEE IT THEN! Life is not a comic book or fantasy- Let US either prove it or shut up! (respectfully!)

 

[Tijani]

Trump foolishly gave China an opening with this trade war. Now the US is trapped. $9 trillion in debt is due for refi this June and the treasury rates are rising. US supply chains will be significantly disrupted, inflation will go through the roof. This is why Trump has changed his tone and is hitting the panic button, repeatedly begging Xi for a call.

The CALL IS NOT COMING. China isn't interested in a deal. China holds cards that the Trump administration was too ignorant to even be aware of, which is the most shocking part. China sees this as an opportunity to decouple from the US and build an alternative system that will significantly weaken the US.

I can't understand why the US is acting in such a suicidal fashion! How difficult is it to understand that this is not the age of gunboat diplomacy? You don't have the guns nor the boats to effectively challenge China. The combined forces of the zionist West could hardly put a dent on Russia economically and militarily but they suddenly believe that China will fold? This is truly madness of the highest order! This China is not occupied Japan, she cannot be bullied into signing a Plaza Accord 2.0 to commit ritual economic suicide. It's literally as you've stated! The US doesn't hold the cards!

 

[tower9]

I can't understand why the US is acting in such a suicidal fashion! How difficult is it to understand that this is not the age of gunboat diplomacy? You don't have the guns nor the boats to effectively challenge China. The combined forces of the zionist West could hardly put a dent on Russia economically and militarily but they suddenly believe that China will fold? This is truly madness of the highest order! This China is not occupied Japan, she cannot be bullied into signing a Plaza Accord 2.0 to commit ritual economic suicide. It's literally as you've stated! The US doesn't hold the cards!

Obvious answer is the most obvious. Americas political elite are extremely stupid and delusional.

That’s it. This is why America will be led to disaster before new leaders, who have lived under great hardship, will rise and have the wisdom to rebuild America in a completely different world order.

 

[Tijani]

Obvious answer is the most obvious. Americas political elite are extremely stupid and delusional.

That’s it. This is why America will be led to disaster before new leaders, who have lived under great hardship, will rise and have the wisdom to rebuild America in a completely different world order.

I'm hoping and praying that you're wrong even though it seems that way with the orange manchild at the helm. I'm hoping the powers that be will intervene and stop this madness for all our sake. Nothing worst than a declining superpower gone wild! Worst than girls gone wild!

 

[Aziqbal]

Trump foolishly gave China an opening with this trade war. Now the US is trapped. $9 trillion in debt is due for refi this June and the treasury rates are rising. US supply chains will be significantly disrupted, inflation will go through the roof. This is why Trump has changed his tone and is hitting the panic button, repeatedly begging Xi for a call.

The CALL IS NOT COMING. China isn't interested in a deal. China holds cards that the Trump administration was too ignorant to even be aware of, which is the most shocking part. China sees this as an opportunity to decouple from the US and build an alternative system that will significantly weaken the US.

US thought it was the 1960s

in 2025 Chinese Juggernaut is a economic powerhouse

Russia is a military machine

Iran has hammered Israel 2 times

these 3 are out for a fight and it doesn't look like Western nations are able to keep pace

 

[Aziqbal]

Obvious answer is the most obvious. Americas political elite are extremely stupid and delusional.

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and they have made enemies for their future generations

no empire last forever all have a finite time at the top

Russia won't forgive or forget
Chinese well we all known what they are out for
Iran also won't forgive and forget

these 3 are historical superpowers and the US is literally a blimp in the historical timeline of empires

 

[Hack-Hook]

Burnt on re-entry? Also I don't think the zionist occupying excuse for a military outpost of the West revealed everyone. Pathological liars as they are but not my field of expertise but let's ask @Flotilla and @Emirzad

The booster won't burn at re-entry

 

[Nuffle]

I can't understand why the US is acting in such a suicidal fashion! How difficult is it to understand that this is not the age of gunboat diplomacy? You don't have the guns nor the boats to effectively challenge China. The combined forces of the zionist West could hardly put a dent on Russia economically and militarily but they suddenly believe that China will fold? This is truly madness of the highest order! This China is not occupied Japan, she cannot be bullied into signing a Plaza Accord 2.0 to commit ritual economic suicide. It's literally as you've stated! The US doesn't hold the cards!

This is American diplomacy.

They have a hammer in their hand, they think that everything is a nail and must be hammered.

Trump should not have taken this inconsistent stance now, but I believe he is running out of time because of next year's election that he may lose.

The best way to contain China was through the TPP, which Trump himself withdrew from in 2017. Now that opportunity has been lost.

 

[Persian Gulf]

negotiations went well... Zionist agents have been activated to attack Witkoff... they are playing with fire, as Trump deeply trusts Witkoff @Falcon29

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[Persian Gulf]

US White House: discussions with Iran were "very positive and constructive"

Witkoff told Araghchi he has instructions from Trump to "resolve our two nations’ differences through dialogue and diplomacy"

 

[Persian Gulf]

Saudi Arabia welcomes the negotiations between Iran and USA

 

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[vmro]

US thought it was the 1960s

in 2025 Chinese Juggernaut is a economic powerhouse

Russia is a military machine

Iran has hammered Israel 2 times

these 3 are out for a fight and it doesn't look like Western nations are able to keep pace

This 3 major powers are enough to take control over heartland euroasian landscape, that is enough for new multipolar geopolitical global reality...

While for Europe every optimistic prediction on long-term is science fiction, for usa is different story, under isolating Monroe doctrine, that is already back-to-basics with Trump, usa could be one of the big players for a long time...but as hegemon on "their" continent and kind neo-Cartagenian empire, in modern edition, for the rest of the world...

 

[ShapurII]

Burnt on re-entry?

No.

 

[tsunset]

It seems like the US abandoned their demands about missile part and are focusing solely on non-weaponization of Iran

Hardcore Israeli/Evangelical hasbara/propaganda elements have been simulataneously activated with the aim of purging/firing pro-diplomacy elements in the US regime and put AngloJew warmongers at their place

Iranians that wants Iran being bombed should have their birth certificate permanently destroyed