Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ShapurII]

The documents are renowned bullshit warmongering hasbara claiming that Israeli shinobis stealthly stole some documents in a building, anyone can print documents and write whatever they want, like Iran is going to put the most critical nationwide documents on some table in the middle of a warehouse? Who is seriously going to believe in those pixie stories? It has literally become a meme portraying the Hollywood stories of AngloJews

This hasbara is tied to the F-35s that "flew for hours above Tehran" and in the same category as the "all air defenses destroyed"

Proofless speculative hasbara is not going to make such an operation get closer to reality, again it would have been done back in the days when the situation was worse than now

Also there is no such thing as "top secret nuclear building", or at least since 2003. Those are pure AngloJew lies to make Israel look like top IQ modern ninjas and reinforce the "Israeli IQ better" narrative

No, they are more likely legit than "renown bullshit". First of all, these documents do align very well with data from the IAEA about Iran's past activities and analysis by people like David Albright. Secondly, Netanyahu exposed the Turquz-Abad warehouse as a secret nuclear storage based on those documents and the IAEA have already verified HEU contamination there. It is part of the ongoing case between Iran and the IAEA as we speak. So, nope. The documents could very well be fabricated, but they contain some previously unknown information that have been publicly verified. So, not bullshit at all.

The rest of your response is blah blah blah. We all know that Stuxnet happened and went undetected and dormant for years (until Israel chose to activate it against the wish of the Americans). We all know that Fakhrizadeh was assassinated near Tehran by a satellite-controlled machine gun. We all know that Ismail Haniyeh was assassinated in a high-security building in Tehran. We all know that 6 of our nuclear scientists were killed with magnet bombs in Tehran. These are all confirmed incidents, publicly and officially acknowledged by the Islamic Republic and blamed on the US and Israel. Even our President and Minister of Foreign Affairs died under very questionable circumstances in a helicopter crash and we don't know how it happened after a year.

 

[Lulldapull]

Could be. And they can enter more agents through our widely open borders. If bare-footed illegal Afghans can do that with $500, why can't Mossad?

However, I don't think this plan (even if it exists) would ever materialize. I mean it was a stupid "plan" to begin with, but now that it has been exposed to the public (even if it's part of their "bad police" vs. "good police" or only as a negotiation tactic, it raises alertness in our intelligence community), it's even harder to carry this out now.

The hardest part of this operation is to execute it in total silence, or create enough chaos for their agents to get away after their missions. So, they either need to orchestrate something really big as a distraction (like a series of huge explosions in Tehran near important locations like the House of the Leader or the residence of the President for distraction), or do all of this in complete silence.

This covert infiltration of Iran is the most serious threat by the Zios. Military threat nobody in Iran breaking much of a sweat, but everyone knows Iran is a huge country with a very small population in only half a dozen cities if that. Rest of the country practically 99% totally empty.

If you were to deport all the illegal migrants today, the population is really hovering around the 70 million mark at best.

Its very hard to defend against covert infiltration/ man the borders and prevent people entering.

Just look at the US.......they've been barging in like crazy busting down the fences and razor wire and whatnot.

How in da hell do you stop infiltration?......If the US has failed, evidently.......there's no hope for Iran. Our Pakistan already fukked by Afghani and Rohingya/ Bangladeshi and Indians. Long ago!

@Davey Crockett @AZ_HighCountry @Hamartia Antidote

 

[ShapurII]

This covert infiltration of Iran is the most serious threat by the Zios. Military threat nobody in Iran breaking much of a sweat, but everyone knows Iran is a huge country with a very small population in only half a dozen cities if that. Rest of the country practically 99% totally empty.

If you were to deport all the illegal migrants today, the population is really hovering around the 70 million mark at best.

Its very hard to defend against covert infiltration.

I don't think the illegal immigrants are more than 7-8 million people, but the point is that we have near zero control over our borders. And as you said, it's a large country with really low density.

Also, don't forget that devaluation of the Iranian currency and job safety make recruitment in Iran very easy. The salary of an average Joe working for the Iranian government is around $250-$350 per month. On top of that, the government rarely hires people officially. Instead, they make you sign contracts with proxy HR companies to refuse to hire you officially. So, your salary is really low and you have really poor job security. So, imagine how easy it should be to recruit people that are so grossly underpaid and feel little loyalty to where they work.

 

[Lulldapull]

How do you defend this land area from Zio infiltration with barely 70 million population? or more like half a million total armed forces?

Its just too hard no?

 

[maverick]

How do you defend this land area from Zio infiltration with barely 70 million population? or more like half a million total armed forces?

Its just too hard no?

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Pakistanis has 240Mill people and they all are jobless, get them and pay them brishers always used them for 200 years

 

[Lulldapull]

Pakistanis has 240Mill people and they all are jobless, get them and pay them brishers always used them for 200 years

stop making fun of our people! We never involved ourselves in the ME drama, and never will.

 

[tsunset]

The Saudis are clearly doing everything they can to not be targeted in case of an attack on Iran

This approach is unique to KSA compared to UAE and Bahrain, KSA wants to be safe from any attack through diplomacy, seeing that they will lose a lot for little to no reward in exchange, Bahrain would be the major target in case something happens

 

[Comandante]

I didn't think Iran was that stupid. The leaders didn't learn anything from history, for example from the case of Iraq. Iraq was attacked when they were sure it didn't have chemical weapons. Iran will be attacked when they are sure it doesn't have nuclear weapons. The Iranian leadership is naive, I hope the IRGC prevents this betrayal. Even if the uranium stockpile is taken to Russia, it will be a mistake. It won't stop Israel and the US will overlook everything it does. Pakistan, India are nuclear powers. Iran has even more right to be one. When the first test explosion happens, and there will be at least 10 nuclear bombs, it will be quiet. It's not necessary to threaten the US, its surrounding bases are enough.

 

[FUB]

Interesting view on Zionist claims
They are highly probable hasbara.

1—The armed forces probably have more confidence in BAVAR 373 AD and other locally made systems.

2- Second possibility, Iran's ADFS are moving the S300 Units to avoid them being picked up by spy satellites

3- Least likely scenario,, some of the units were damaged and are being repaired and refurbished.

 

[Lulldapull]

Irans winning guys........hands down.......so evident.

Now, the Israelis will try sabotaging the narrative/ developments......lol

as usual.

Irans fukkin zeroed in on da Zio drama......its very hard for Israel to escape this noose.

Khamenei will hang Netanyahu, by hook or by crook.

Just a matter of time.......

 

[vmro]

The Saudis are clearly doing everything they can to not be targeted in case of an attack on Iran

This approach is unique to KSA compared to UAE and Bahrain, KSA wants to be safe from any attack through diplomacy, seeing that they will lose a lot for little to no reward in exchange, Bahrain would be the major target in case something happens

New approach of Saudi is attracting global stars and hosting popular events, positive rebranding...But Iran already made it clear how vulnerable are their strategic assets, so they need of friendly Iran at any cost

 

[Assyrian]

New approach of Saudi is attracting global stars and hosting popular events, positive rebranding...But Iran already made it clear how vulnerable are their strategic assets, so they need of friendly Iran at any cost

Who is gonna target the saudis or any GCC member in that case?

Nobody dares to target them unless it is all out war between them and whomever it is. The Saudis and GCC policy is simple to understand if other people want to go to war fine but just don´t include me and keep your wars over there.

GCC and SAUDI could absolutely flatline Iran if provacations were to come to shove they have larger airforce then Israel and have the one thing that is threat against Iran which is manpower and regional allies If the SAUDIS join in on a conflict against Iran then Iran will get invaded but the US and Israel can´t without the GCC.

Where are the Americans gonna attack from is the question? they need land-corridor the question is who is gonna open that land-corridor it will only be possible If Iran only unfriends the Saudis then the corridor will open this time not for empty strikes but an actual ground invasion from Pakistan, Hormuz, Thru Iraq, Kuwait, Turkey and Azerbaijan.

As a matter fact the Saudis are the only thing standing against Iran being invaded and a lifeline after they have normalized and the only entity keeping a ground invasion on Iran at bay thru their influence.

 

[vmro]

Who is gonna target the saudis or any GCC member in that case?

Nobody dares to target them unless it is all out war between them and whomever it is. The Saudis and GCC policy is simple to understand if other people want to go to war fine but just don´t include me and keep your wars over there.

GCC and SAUDI could absolutely flatline Iran if provacations were to come to shove they have larger airforce then Israel and have the one thing that is threat against Iran which is manpower and regional allies If the SAUDIS join in on a conflict against Iran then Iran will get invaded but the US and Israel can´t without the GCC.

Where are the Americans gonna attack from is the question? they need land-corridor the question is who is gonna open that land-corridor it will only be possible If Iran only unfriends the Saudis then the corridor will open this time not for empty strikes but an actual ground invasion from Pakistan, Hormuz, Thru Iraq, Kuwait, Turkey and Azerbaijan.

As a matter fact the Saudis are the only thing standing against Iran being invaded and a lifeline after they have normalized and the only entity keeping a ground invasion on Iran at bay thru their influence.

But that was just few years ago, quintessential Armaco was part of Iranian-Yemeni(Houthis) military exercise in real-time conditions, and poor Saudis never figured out which one sent them the package...Armaco is everything for Saudis, and their hyperexpensive military couldn't even notice anything... While Yemenis made Saudis land forces to get status of ww Italian forces as most useless military 'power'...

Before being the ultimate prince, mbs was in charge of ministry of defense, overconfident in own potential to defeat Iran on Iranian terrain, I remember that... but, those days are past, he was just a kid... now he is able to perceive the reality...

 

[Assyrian]

But that was just few years ago, quintessential Armaco was part of Iranian-Yemeni(Houthis) military exercise in real-time conditions, and poor Saudis never figured out which one sent them the package...Armaco is everything for Saudis, and their hyperexpensive military couldn't even notice anything... While Yemenis made Saudis land forces to get status of ww Italian forces as most useless military 'power'...

Before being the ultimate prince, mbs was in charge of ministry of defense, overconfident in own potential to defeat Iran on Iranian terrain, I remember that... but, those days are past, he was just a kid... now he is able to perceive the reality...

What are you on about some none-state actors took the blame but listen that is entirely irrelevant now as the war has ended ages ago. The Houthis have not won their war in Yemen against their local opponents. It is the saudis also standing in the way of Houthi elimination now things have changed. If they allow the US to raise 100k army from yemen it is over for the houthis because the US can´t rollover the houthis miitarily themselves.. Politics change all the time it flip-flops one day your enemy is your friend today etc etc and the next day it can change again.

Irans proxies have vanished and so can the Houthis today but there is no political incentive to do so they actully benefit from them somehow.

Nobody will invade both the Houthis nor Iran in this round of fighting all is just talk, airstrikes nothing existential threat.

Gaza war will also come to an end

 

[vmro]

What are you on about some none-state actors took the blame but listen that is entirely irrelevant now as the war has ended ages ago. The Houthis have not won their war in Yemen against their local opponents. It is the saudis also standing in the way of Houthi elimination now things have changed. If they allow the US to raise 100k army from yemen it is over for the houthis because the US can´t rollover the houthis miitarily themselves.. Politics change all the time it flip-flops one day your enemy is your friend today etc etc and the next day it can change again.

Irans proxies have vanished and so can the Houthis today but there is no political incentive from the Saudis to do so they actully benefit from them somehow currently.

To stay ontopic, just one point, one "True Promise" executed in same amount as it was on zionists, will erases the heart of Saudis existence, Armaco, and no one in Pentagon will give sole tear for it...And Turkish-Qatari dynamic duo become rival on higher level, and Saudis already expressed desire to balance their growth with Iranian go-ahead... peace