Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Iran has not managed to down 1 Israeli fighter jet. Not one.

The claims of 2 fighter jets are so far unverified with no verified proof whatsoever.

So that means over 200 fighter jets have been able to stay around or inside Iranian airspace with no threat of attack.


The Aircraft did not enter Iranian airspace they used stand off missiles at the beginning.
 
CHINA+PAKISTAN With the training of PaF and chinese toys. iranian airforce could have been 100x better
Iran could've used the last ten years to integrate with China's military industrial complex like Pakistan did and they'd be sitting on several hundred J10s, maybe even some fifth gens. It is crazy they think not having a modern airforce is ok. WTF are they thinking???
 
My neighbor and family ask what kind of air defense is this!?!!!

I say plasam or laser which is unique and only made by Iran
 
Oh bhai, all countries are incompetent if pitted against the US or Israel no?

Could anyone here name us one muzlim country that can strike Tel-Aviv?

:ROFLMAO:
Literally everyone can. Just don't have the balls to do it. Bibi cut of everyones balls and put it in his Tel Aviv apartment.
 
The Palis were sold out by their allies Iran who were not smart. The Arabs will never fight a war they can´t win.. Whether you like or not that is fuking smart you gotta give it to them atleast.

Why is China not go fighting for Taiwan and why the wait for 80 years or was that all talk?

We both understand what bidding time means lets not say it is stupid with one group and good with the other
Palestinians were abandoned by Arabs in 1970s, forcing them to go to Iran for help. Arabs have been beaten so many times by Israel, they have given up and solely focused on making money and enjoying life. Thats not "biding your time".

You confuse Arabs with China where Deng Xiaping said China had to "hide its strength and bide its time" in early 1980s. Now you see the results of that policy.
 
Both Turkey and UAE have made leap in their defense industry plus Pakistan to some extent but they will trade with people and won´t throw stones unnecesary because they understand the world geopolitical landscape no need to be hostile or take hostile stance towards anyone until the landscape picture changes with time
Pakistan has made improvements and so has UAE, but still not at the level of Turkey in that regard.

The Turks are competent, they have high quality standards. The rest still have a third world mentality ripe with complacency, nepotism, and standards vary.

Pakistan must let go of their nepotism culture and value meritocracy and stricter quality standards for competency or it will end up the same as Iran one day in the future.
 
It is game over bro. So much talk all these years. So much muscle flexing. It has amounted to absolutely nothing.
Really Iran is nothing more than a paper tiger who hides behind its proxies.

They spent billions on their proxies but didn't bother to bolster their conventional deterrence. No airforce, no navy and hell even the ground forces are in bad shape.

Iran bit more than it could chew off. It's entire proxy network was really just a power vacuum filled after Iraq was decimated by the Americans.

And their nuclear program? Let's be for real you can't have a nuclear deterrence without a conventional deterrence in this day and age. Iran miscalculated heavily and today is paying the price of its inaction.

The moment they delayed their nuclear program and stopped working on a conventional envelope was the day they had lost this war.
 

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