Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Falcon29 said:
I don't believe Iran has restored deterrence, yet. But they may have made the political echelon in Israel rethink what their war objectives should be. Which is the first step towards restoring deterrence.

It's too early. This can escalate. Iran can hit ammonia storages or hit Dimona. That's when it gets really serious and Israel will find out.

But also risks US attack on Iran. But soon Iran may have nothing to lose depending on how this progresses. If US doesn't show signs of restraining Israel and continues arming it, it will escalate.
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Iran needs to go up the escalation ladder and just keep the hits coming and take out all of their infrastructure.

Israel will show no mercy if Iran goes down. Look at Syria. If the Iranian govt collapses, israel will bomb all of Irans assets to the Stone Age. This is an existential fight.
 
The bad thing about this is it's negotiations under fire now. Israel/US are trying to get Iran to surrender nuclear program. If Iran does that they'll request to surrender ballistic missile program.

The US demands are irrational and crazy. Israel is demanding the whole region to surrender.

There's no off ramp here because US and Israel are insane and on a genocidal rampage in the region.

Iran may feel it has nothing to lose soon. It will remain calculated but the US and Israel are not giving it any good options.
 
Falcon26 said:
@Persian Gulf

I am not sure but there seems to be successful interceptions here but the debris was still powerful enough to cause an explosion.

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Those are 2 x Fattah hypersonic missiles vs dozen or so SAMs. They still got through.
 
Emirzad said:
Those are 2 x Fattah hypersonic missiles vs dozen or so SAMs. They still got through.
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My bad. You are correct. I saw another angle and they did buzz through

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Falcon29 said:
The bad thing about this is it's negotiations under fire now. Israel/US are trying to get Iran to surrender nuclear program. If Iran does that they'll request to surrender ballistic missile program.

The US demands are irrational and crazy. Israel is demanding the whole region to surrender.

There's no off ramp here because US and Israel are insane and on a genocidal rampage in the region.

Iran may feel it has nothing to lose soon. It will remain calculated but the US and Israel are not giving it any good options.
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There’s no purpose in those talks. Iran needs to learn from North Koreas example. Zios will never accept an independent Iran so you need to just be as strong as you can be to prevent this from happening again.
 
This sounds much funnier when read in Arabic than translated 😂😂😂

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Developereo said:
I was suggesting any 5gen airplane as a quick solution just to use their radar/EW suite even while the plane is parked on the ground. Nobody needs to fly it in combat.

It is an underuse and there may be better solutions but situation in Iran is desperate at the moment. They desperately need something that can track the Israeli planes and target their SAMs.
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If IAF planes detect a radar signal, they can use AGM-88 HARM to neutralize it. Besides, Iran is a large country. Wherever they place this aircraft, coverage will be limited.
 
tower9 said:
Iran needs to go up the escalation ladder and just keep the hits coming and take out all of their infrastructure.
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Israel will not stop even if their infrastructure is gone. Buildings can be rebuilt.

Israel will only stop if there are mass casualties and the public forces the government to ask for ceasefire.

It amazes me that so many people, including Iranians, don't understand that Israel is physically in the Middle East but the societal mindset is Western. It has very limited appetite for civilian casualties.

As civilian deaths mount, people will demand answers from Netanyahu why he started this war when there was no threat from Iran and negotiations were in progress.
 
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Iranian President saying good things now.

Not backing down on Iran's right to enrichment.

Says the US is behaving in an insane mafia manner.

And says we are not afraid and will continue to defend ourselves against the monstrous terror state of Israel.
 
EugeneP said:
If IAF planes detect a radar signal, they can use AGM-88 HARM to neutralize it.
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By your logic, no aircraft should ever use their radar because they would be shot down. Aircraft radar and EW suite exist for a purpose, especially the latest gen.

EugeneP said:
Besides, Iran is a large country. Wherever they place this aircraft, coverage will be limited.
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Limited coverage over key sites is better than zero coverage right now.
Plus aircraft can be moved around the country at will. This will also render useless any data collected from their previous location.
 
Iranian President: We are steadfast and fear nothing, and we ask our people to be patient in the face of the crises imposed by the brutal entity.

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Falcon26 said:
My bad. You are correct. I saw another angle and they did buzz through

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Check out this video slowly. One missile exactly hit the place from where AD system was firing interceptors
 
Iranian hypersonic missiles are successfully able to bypass Israeli radar defence systems, especially when paired with slower missiles. Perhaps using decoys or other penetration aids.

Iran tested a new type of warhead that behaved slightly differently and there is suspection a new type of payload may be used next, whatever that may be.
 
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