Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Unknown987]

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This is too much freedom-

 

[Persian Gulf]

I saw some maps today showing that a very few of Iran's Missile bases have actually been hit (despite all the hype form Israel). So its very likely that Iran is just conserving the missiles right now, tiring out Israel's defences.

Also coincides with the Israeli reports that Iran still has 2,000 missiles available that can reach Israel (not counting the ones which Iran are trying to reach). If Iran regains its airspace (first good sign today with the downed UAV), then Iran can dig out the Western Missile bases quicker and things will go very bad for Israel, very quickly.

zero evidence that ANY of the missile bases have been compromised in relation to the hundreds of missiles stored under mountains. just the above ground support buildings and some tunnels for the missile bases in the west of Iran

Iran has dozens of SRBM bases across the coast which haven't been impacted at all

and more MRBM bases deeper in Iran, though those are further from Israel

 

[Persian Gulf]

You truly believe that THEIR AD will ever get depleted?

US, UK, Germany etc will just rush more equipment overnight via FedEx.

Question remains..., how long can Iran continue their attacks and how much stock still remains (that isn't buried under a rubble)?

yes. they can't resupply Arrow systems that easily and THAAD has limits

they can only bring more warships to region to use their SM-3 missiles

 

[wangdefa]

Iran faced a complicated situation with traitors and spies within that launched drones against air defense systems, along with coordinated SPIKE strikes against high-value targets. Afterward, you have F-35s and other EW assets that did the cleanup.

Pakistan wouldn't have fared any better if the same Israeli assets, strategy, and tactics had been in indian hands.

We even speculate that some faction are cooperating with Israel and use Israel to eliminate their political opponents.

 

[brazensword]

yes. they can't resupply Arrow systems that easily and THAAD has limits

they can only bring more warships to region to use their SM-3 missiles

Irani drones are checkmated at the moment?

 

[OldTwilight]

Patarames seems to think Iran's plan is:

- keep firing small salvos every day for a few more weeks until Israel's air defences are significantly depleted

- then start attacking Israeli air bases to degrade Israeli sortie rates

- then move TELs closer to border to mass launch Qiam-2/Rezvan missiles

Its has fatal flaw, We need to attack Cyprus ( which we should start to send warning about this to EU ) ,

And who said they are only using their own Air Base ?

 

[Ali_Baba]

Pakistan wants to avoid going beyond its threshold ally status with China to balance appearances with the West. Iran has no need for that. They can afford to spare an island for the PLAN, we can’t.

Yes the Chinese are pragmatic, and so they can coach their intervention in the language of a temporary peacekeeping mission to protect their $400 billion investment in Iran and diffuse the situation; no more trading strikes against each other. China needs the oil and gas and the world needs Chinese goods.

The Chinese don’t actively get involved in anything. If they wanted to send a message, they could send a message by sending a large PLAAF contingent to Pakistan, 200-300 jets. There is no need to actively get involved or kenetic operations, just messaging.

That would get the Americans attention and change the strategic calculus for everyone.

It isn’t n a question of why should China or Russia help Iran. Iran has not earnt the trust or the faith of the Chinese at all with their double and triple dealing. We know this. It is a question of does it change the strategic nature significantly for the region that affects chinas long term strategic interests and therefore is there a reason to intervene to protect those interests.

This would mean Pakistan taking a stronger policy front on this issue than they want to at this stage so I don’t see it happening. Afghanistan would be the best for all parties for China to host their presence on to send a message but I don’t think the infrastructure exists there for the to do that and the taliban are currently too unpredictable anyway.

The question for Pakistan is if the recent uptick with thenUSA is long term sustainable with real tangible benefits or temporary as they need Pakistan out of the way for this war and the it will be back to the old norm between Pakistan and the USA.

Let’s be clear, Israel and India jointly coordinated the attack on Pakistan as part of the attack on Iran to tie down Pakistan. Given the Americans and NATO actions currently against Iran,, and Vance’s time in India, it is obvious that the USA and European countries were also in on this attack also on Pakistan. The bonhomie for Pakistan is only because in my view the Indians failed…

(Personally I am of the view that Pakistan should provide military intelligence of the movement of nato and USA assets in real time to Iran and leave it at that, ie no other involvement..). This would be tangible enough for Iran to appreciate but difficult (if the Iranians can track down their miles) to trace back to Pakistan.

 

[Aziqbal]

Iran should hit the financial centre of tel Aviv

The shiny new buildings they have are all in one area

Can Iran not hit that area ?

 

[Lulldapull]

What happened last month?

Ask Bilal bhai

@Quwa

 

[brazensword]

Iran should hit the financial centre of tel Aviv

The shiny new buildings they have are all in one area

Can Iran not hit that area ?

Saying this from day one. Destroy the intel fab. 25bn+ loss. Will make the Jews go suicidal as they love nothing more than money and land.

 

[Dexon]

Are you f#*kin' kidding me !!! Its moving freely in mid-day at that speed (if that's what you wanna call it).

Man, give the kids some RPGs' to shoot 'em.

For every drone they shoot down - Scholarship

 

[hussain0216]

Iran faced a complicated situation with traitors and spies within that launched drones against air defense systems, along with coordinated SPIKE strikes against high-value targets. Afterward, you have F-35s and other EW assets that did the cleanup.

Pakistan wouldn't have fared any better if the same Israeli assets, strategy, and tactics had been in indian hands.

ISI would have been better

Our problem is A & Bs, or to be more accurate P & Bs, the likelihood of betrayal is from them

That's just the cold heart truth and if we don't deal with it we will have similar chaos

 

[wangdefa]

The Chinese don’t actively get involved in anything. If they wanted to send a message, they could send a message by sending a large PLAAF contingent to Pakistan, 200-300 jets. There is no need to actively get involved or kenetic operations, just messaging.

That would get the Americans attention and change the strategic calculus for everyone.

It isn’t n a question of why should China or Russia help Iran. Iran has not earnt the trust or the faith of the Chinese at all with their double and triple dealing. We know this. It is a question of does it change the strategic nature significantly for the region that affects chinas long term strategic interests and therefore is there a reason to intervene to protect those interests.

This would mean Pakistan taking a stronger policy front on this issue than they want to at this stage so I don’t see it happening. Afghanistan would be the best for all parties for China to host their presence on to send a message but I don’t think the infrastructure exists there for the to do that and the taliban are currently too unpredictable anyway.

What China needs is a stable friend, not a regular threat to recover ports like Australia. If we build a good military base and the country repents of recovering land for some reason, will China send troops to fight or give up? Does the war belong to China's invasion of a country?
At present, China has not seen such a friend in the Middle East.

 

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this is the one that was brought down, around 15 mins after this video was posted. Israel were were too quick to boast about it, Its gone.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

Israeli media reports that Iran lost its entire military command and Khamenei doesn't know the new commanders is hilarious propaganda

IRGC has an army of commanders with experience in top positions over the past 20 years. they are constantly being rotated across different positions and Khamenei obviously knows them all.

Safavi, Ali Jafari, Pakpour, Ali Fadavi, Ali Ahmadian, Mousavi, Tangsiri, Izadi, Vahidi, Rezaee, ... then there is Artesh commanders too which basically have not been affected at all.

the depth of IRGC commanders is huge. even 5 of the last 6 IRGC commanders since 1997 are still alive! only Salami was killed (at 65 years old).

Were there any more salvos from Iran since 30 missiles from last night?

Or do they usually launch the missiles at night to avoid satellite detection during the day?