Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Salza]

Time to impact?

Should have been impacted few minutes back but news is, it got intercepted so what ever it was, it was a dud.

 

[Pakistani Dragon]

Before Mecca conquest, Khyber had to be destroyed.

Makkah.

Mecca is used for a casino.

 

[r3alist]

@RescueRanger = super mod

 

[Be dazzled]

Why are you posting AI generated crap?

Noy on purpose. AI is becoming too realistic . However, if the following ain't AI it suggests a new missile likely two stage or more.

 

[Pakistani Dragon]

Based on news reports from Russia , Russia has already warned any other nation's involvement in Iran war

Nobody takes them seriously.

 

[Foinikas]

There was no Israel even before the 1st centruy AD. Modern day Palestinians are the true decendents of ancient hebrews a fact born out of genetic testing, which is unironically banned in the european colony currently occupying Palestine.

There you go

History of Israel - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[El Sidd]

1. Please speak in English in a non Pakistani thread
2. This is based on what we are reading in International Media
3. Its not an open secret China will be the biggest loser in the Persian Gulf region if there is regime change in Iran as china relies on cheap oil from Iran.

Kindly stick on the topic - I am not in the habit of "scuttlebutt", I only talk on serious topics.

Thanks

My sincere apologies.

Do you think that closure of straits of Hormuz and the Malacca strait is politically and militarily affordable? Before this conflict, Indian media was reporting crucial Indian Naval reassignment and possible cooperation with Mauritius.

Indian government went out today and insisted that Operation Sindoor is ongoing. Do you think there is strategic convergence given recent attention to Pakistan's nuclear program?

Effectively the regime change operation is a cover name for balkanisation of Persia. Do you think an eventual balkanisation of Arab lands would be synchronized?

 

[r3alist]

 

[RescueRanger]

There you go

History of Israel - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Please Fonikas, you know I like you but no history lesson on this thread it will just go off topic and it becomes a headache to moderate.

 

[Nuffle]

Iran may indeed have thousands of missiles in its missile tunnels, but if their launchers have been hit and reduced and if they are battling surveillance and drones then they may not be able to launch as much as they like

Basically, it is a doctrine that is the opposite of the Western one and is used by several countries that are quite similar to each other (it seems like a combination) and that place their bets on long-range missiles to the detriment of conventional aviation.

I don't know if I've said this before, but it bears repeating: long-range missiles are excellent weapons if used to achieve specific objectives within a larger strategy (for example, establishing air superiority) and not to replace conventional bombing.

You simply cannot achieve the critical mass of fire needed to make a difference, regardless of how many ballistic missiles you have.

I said it here:

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Jun 15, 2025

Scientific analysis of what we witnessed at dawn today, where Israel was hit by a hypersonic missile , marking Iran's first use of such a weapon. However, it is not the globally recognized hypersonic type like China's DF-ZF, but rather a quasi-hypersonic missile scientifically termed Quasi-HGV. It operates at speeds between 5 to 6 Mach during the terminal dive phase but without actual maneuvering, unlike true hypersonic missiles such as China's DF-ZF or Russia's Zircon.

But what is Israel's capability in intercepting quasi-hypersonic missiles like Fattah 1 and 2?

What defensive...

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[Taimoor]

Makkah.

Mecca is used for a casino.

Your attempt to come across as smarty pants and trying to increase my knowledge, is as useful as t|ts on a nun.

 

[r3alist]

Your attempt to come across as smarty pants and trying to increase my knowledge, is as useful as t|ts on a nun.

Poor analogy in this context

 

[RescueRanger]

My sincere apologies.

Do you think that closure of straits of Hormuz and the Malacca strait is politically and militarily affordable? Before this conflict, Indian media was reporting crucial Indian Naval reassignment and possible cooperation with Mauritius.

Indian government went out today and insisted that Operation Sindoor is ongoing. Do you think there is strategic convergence given recent attention to Pakistan's nuclear program?

Effectively the regime change operation is a cover name for balkanisation of Persia. Do you think an eventual balkanisation of Arab lands would be synchronized?

Do you think that closure of straits of Hormuz and the Malacca strait is politically and militarily affordable?

Which is why you are seeing a massive build up of US naval assets in the region, 3 carrier strike groups is NO joke.

Indian government went out today and insisted that Operation Sindoor is ongoing. Do you think there is strategic convergence given recent attention to Pakistan's nuclear program?

Not the thread to discuss it, wait and see what happens in Iran first - we will be on the shopping list - there are things going on that demand our (Pak) attention - not the thread to discuss it.

Effectively the regime change operation is a cover name for balkanisation of Persia. Do you think an eventual balkanisation of Arab lands would be synchronized?

This entire operation has the blessing of those in the M.E who pull the strings at the behest of their western overlords.

 

[Be dazzled]

it triggered sirens in Tel Aviv

 

[That_Guy]

Rumors are that despite claims that Israel still has enough interceptors to last 2 weeks at the current rate, they're actually almost out of interceptors. The US is apparently rushing to resupply them, which explains the massive US and European air activity in the region, but that may not be enough.

Interception have already dropped to below 50%, and a majority of Iranian missiles fired are hitting targets, but Israeli media is being heavily censored by the Netanyahu regime.

Its unknown how much damage Iran has actually done, because of a lack of information coming out of Israel. It's likely significantly worse for Israel than what they're admitted to, and what social media has shown.

The death toll is likely also likely being heavily censored. We know Iran hit major Israeli bases, yet no damage report was released, no visuals, and no reports of casualties which we KNOW occurred as ambulances were active during almost every single one of those base hits.

Moving forward, it seems that Trump is backing off from joining directly, but may be giving Israel a limited number of bunker busters to try and do the job of destroying the underground nuclear facilities itself (which will likely only do very limited damage, because these underground bases massive in size and scale, and the bombs aren't likely to reach the depth require with only a few hits).

@Persian Gulf @RescueRanger @Musings

I should also add, there are rumors going around on social media that Pakistan's COAS may propose a Pakistani led no-fly zone over Tehran to Trump, in order to stop the fighting.

THERE IS NO TRUTH TO THIS! WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE AGENDA IS, BUT IT WILL LIKELY BE RELATED TO IRAN, BUT THERE IS NO REASON TO BELIEVE PAKISTAN WANTS TO GET DIRECTLY INVOLVED!!