Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[RescueRanger]

British Foreign Secretary: We are prepared to defend our personnel and assets in the Middle East and our allies.

 

[Cash gk]

in the short term they are not coming after Pakistan if it obeys the orders issued during Mr Trump's lunch with Asim Munir : Do not assist Iran in this war we are launching and also in the long term, do not be Iran's conduit to China post-war.

In the long term West/India are coming for Pakistan anyway. I mean in next 20-25 years. They will not tolerate any Muslim country with nukes/delivery systems. Back to OT.

They made him walk like half mile before the lunch. Man is so unsecure in his personality having lunch with the Trump going to cost us so much

 

[SteppeWolff]

British Foreign Secretary: We are prepared to defend our personnel and assets in the Middle East and our allies.
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Brits are still high on their past glory, piggybacking on the power of the American Emipre. They'll get their due too. IA.

 

[Foinikas]

Iran needs to buy time while urgently negotiating arms resupplies from China or North Korea.

Forget Russia; it is Zionist controlled and tied up in Ukraine anyway.

That should have been the plan 15 years now. Instead they spent all their money into proxies and countless missiles.

 

[Watandar]

Don't underestimate me. Or be condescending.

The whole situation with Libya and the overthrow of Ghadaffi along with the Arab Spring were a creation of the Obama Administration and implemented by Hillary Clinton to further destabilize the Middle East. Do not doubt me on this.

Are you saying even Arab Spring was a Western plot ? I am doubtful of that as the Arab Spring tried to overthrow the Western collaborators who have been doing its bidding for literally the fifth generation now. Lets take Egypt, there was a revolution that removed Hosni Mubarak, but a year later when Egyptian army did a coup and removed Mohammed Morsi, nobody in the West complained. When Mr Morsi died few years later in Egyptian prison, nobody in West complained either. I think Arab spring was an indigenous movement that was crushed by the Western-supported despots in Mideast.

 

[Cesur]

I have to disagree here. We could have had a good democracy, but unfortunately, the west has done anything they can to meddle with our internal affairs. Had we done the same to them, they would have been in the same situation as us.

There’s nothing inherently wrong with democracy. What doesn’t work is Western-imposed models of it. In both Afghanistan and Pakistan, we historically had a hybrid system combining the Durrani monarchy with grassroots-level tribal leadership, which functioned effectively until British interference disrupted it.

In Iran’s case, the issue stemmed from Reza Shah Pahlavi, a military figure and self-declared monarchist, who was heavily influenced by Atatürk’s liberal reforms. While there’s nothing wrong with leftist inclinations, these were manipulated by Western powers. On top of that, Iran had a genuinely democratic leader, Mohammad Mossadegh, who was ultimately overthrown in a CIA and MI6-backed coup primarily because he dared to nationalize Iran’s oil.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

British Foreign Secretary: We are prepared to defend our personnel and assets in the Middle East and our allies.
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protect your Tesco first!

 

[Shags101]

Don't underestimate me. Or be condescending.

The whole situation with Libya and the overthrow of Ghadaffi along with the Arab Spring were a creation of the Obama Administration and implemented by Hillary Clinton to further destabilize the Middle East. Do not doubt me on this.

The Arab spring failed miserably was because instead the White House giving those “leaders” a face saving way out they decided to pressure them into leaving without any face saving measures I like when people say regime change all that happens is either civil war or replace it with a more corrupt government I definitely believe the only way to change these governments is through gradual change otherwise we just have chaos

 

[RescueRanger]

I think someone is giving the wrong advice to the Iranian Government. If all the signals are true - they are likely to commit a critical error - lets hope it doesn't happen.

 

[Forsvaret]

I definitely believe the only way to change these governments is through gradual change otherwise we just have chaos

Cannot be said better

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

How longer this war takes, how more west and Israel lose the narrative (among international communicty) which is already not ending in their advantage.

 

[Fasbre2]

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So is the backpack on Indians something that is an appendage from birth, or is it attached when they reach adolescence…

 

[Cash gk]

Don't underestimate me. Or be condescending.

The whole situation with Libya and the overthrow of Ghadaffi along with the Arab Spring were a creation of the Obama Administration and implemented by Hillary Clinton to further destabilize the Middle East. Do not doubt me on this.

You have no idea what you're talking about. The whole situation started after the fall of the Ottoman Empire. It was a long-term plan to dismantle and occupy the Muslim world over the next 150 years. The first step was to destroy Muslim unity, divide them into nationalities and tribes, and then eliminate them one by one. Look at the last 25 years. how many Muslim countries have been destroyed? This is part of a larger plan. Trump, Obama, Biden, Netanyahu. they’re all following the same scrip

 

[Watandar]

I think someone is giving the wrong advice to the Iranian Government. If all the signals are true - they are likely to commit a critical error - lets hope it doesn't happen.

What do you think Iranians are going to do ? I am confused as everything they are doing seems half-measures. Their most successful card is the missile strikes against Israel which are causing tremendous pain, yet they have backed off from that too.

 

[sharreman10]

I think someone is giving the wrong advice to the Iranian Government. If all the signals are true - they are likely to commit a critical error - lets hope it doesn't happen.

What are you talking about? More info please.