Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Lulldapull]

So why should not Iran do the same and persist in its quest to get such weapons too? That is the point considering that it was advised above to Iran to simply give that up.

Behind BLA /TTP/ SRA sits da US and its minion India and da talibunny no?……and dis non existent sapace porograam no? Same people got yous on life support……

Kidher israheeli shehron ko khandurr bananay waalay Irani turani aur kidher hum ghareeb?

Halwa puri Chhikar channay da salan.

Do rupay key baatain buss…..

And we gotta put up with all this?

 

[Meengla]

And now CNN and few other of Israel stooges are claiming Fordow wasn't entirely destroyed.

American domestic politics. Nothing more. Had it been Biden, CNN would be singing a different tune.
This country is horribly divided.

 

[Tamerlane]

The live genocide being committed by Jews in Israel with full official backing of the US and all Western governments is an unprecedented example of barbarity in human history. It shows the total moral collapse of the West. While the US and NATO were supplying bombs to Israel to attack Iran, Israel is killing 50-100 Palestinains in Gaza every day.

Humanity needs to move on without the West.

 

[PakAl]

Israel -
Claims victory, for 12 days had been ruling enemy Iranian skies, bombing whatever they felt like, bases, aircrafts, missile launchers, radars, SAMs, nuclear facilities, infrastructure, they assassinated top iranian generals and scientists, Israel also had 100s of agents on the ground in iran, destroying AD system from the ground, using drones from the ground. Today Israel has no fear they will continue to bomb iran when they feel like it, slowly degrading their military capabilities. Iran lost its nuclear facilities, which cost them billions. For 18 hours Iranians were confused on what was happening.

Iran -
Iran managed to fire atleast 500 missiles at Israel, before the war iran claimed they have 100,000 missiles aimed at Israel but for failed to fire them at Israel, Iran destroyed Israel infrastructures and bases. For 12 days managed to get through to Israel and hitting them hard, this created alot of chaos inside israel. No doubt Iran fought bravely, were ready to fight till end.

Iran to do list-
They MUST identify all agents and traitors inside iran and finish them off, their intelligence agency head needs to be fired and new professional people hired. This cannot be repeated.

Iran must ban the use of pagers, western phones, apps, watches to its military personals. Iran must understand that Israelis had the upper hand, they can continue to bomb iran for 1 year and iran couldn't do much, all because Israelis ruled their airspace. Iran needs anti jamming equipment, AD systems, SAM systems, they must make sure Israel will never be able to dominate iranian skies again.

During this war, Iranian strategic partner Russia was quieter than usual and their close partner India refused to condemn Israel or attend SCO meetings on behalf of iran. Iran must remember who supported them from the beginning till the end.

Regarding military weapons. A lot of people are saying Iran must buy j10c, su35s or Jf17s, this is not possible as the west, Israel and Arab GCC will not allow anyone to sell weapons to Iran, It will not work. unless Iran leaves middle east alone, does not challenge mighty Saudis and Israel in the region, this then may reduce alot of pressure on foreign suppliers and just maybe iran will be able to buy 100 jf17 block 3s to upgrade its airforce. Iran must also invest in SLBM, SLCMs, they need 2nd strike capabilities.

My own opinion - Iran will continue the same path, International sanctions are so serious that no nation will sell cutting edge weaponry to iran, iran will continue giving anti usa and Israel slogans, keeping the domestic audience happy. With officials using this level of non diplomatic language, the situation will be the same. Keep in mind Iran claimed they had 100,000 missiles but only fired 500, they had so many different types of AD systems but majority failed and destroyed, Missiles launchers and bases destroyed

One way out is for Iranian Patriotic/nationalists to rise up, reset relations with everyone, concentrate on Iran, development, military, economy, concentrate on China Russia Pakistan Turkey ASEAN Africa Brazil South African Central Asia Europe, and improve relations with Qatar Egypt. Leave middleeast alone. Then Iran can improve airforce and military, intergrate with China/Pakistan, they will get satellite cover and cutting edge Awaacs, Jamming etc.

No offence to iranian membere but someone has to pay for this incompetence. The regime clearly failed, maybe its better for Ayatollahs to take the back seat and let the military handle military strategies, planning tactics etc

 

[Shags101]

Netanyahu launched a war on Iran, vowing to destroy their nuclear program and topple the regime.

12 days later, the nuclear program is untouched. The regime? Stronger than ever.

Israel, meanwhile, lies in ruins. Entire neighborhoods turned to ash. Tens of thousands displaced. Civilians stuck in shelters. Lives lost. And for what?

He promised security. He delivered chaos.
He promised victory. He brought humiliation.
He promised a safer future. He made the world far more dangerous for Israelis.

Maybe it’s not Tehran that needs regime change. Maybe it’s Tel Aviv?

I wouldn’t say untouched but definitely standing and from what everything coming out a lot of Israel’s attacks were overhyped but doesn’t mean they didn’t inflict damage to military and nuclear sites and people who ran those agencies or programs but again nit as much as Israel claimed but Iran suffered so didn’t Israel it’s now for which sides people turns on who I’m guessing Israelis because the Iranians didn’t start this war Iranian land was attacked the Israelis are doing to look at what they loss versus what bibi pretends Israel gained

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

I don't think anyone could argue against that.
However, critical people should look at problems by bringing in proportionality. Yes, most Americans may be 'indoctrinated' to what you are saying but you are not 'most' Americans and yet for you to mention, proportionally speaking' an extremely fringe group was not a fair comment.

Extreme fringe groups have done a lot of damage over the course of history.

Brutally accurate comments are not always fair.

 

[Meengla]

Extreme fringe groups have done a lot of damage over the course of history.
Brutally accurate comments are not always fair.

Extreme fringe groups are what they are: Fringe groups! They are like the gangs in Inner City. Dangerous, damaging but still confined. But when conflate them to be larger society, or even a country, then comes the room for obfuscations and misleading. Not accusing YOU of that.

 

[Shags101]

Israel -
Claims victory, for 12 days had been ruling enemy Iranian skies, bombing whatever they felt like, bases, aircrafts, missile launchers, radars, SAMs, nuclear facilities, infrastructure, they assassinated top iranian generals and scientists, Israel also had 100s of agents on the ground in iran, destroying AD system from the ground, using drones from the ground. Today Israel has no fear they will continue to bomb iran when they feel like it, slowly degrading their military capabilities. Iran lost its nuclear facilities, which cost them billions. For 18 hours Iranians were confused on what was happening.

Iran -
Iran managed to fire atleast 500 missiles at Israel, before the war iran claimed they have 100,000 missiles aimed at Israel but for failed to fire them at Israel, Iran destroyed Israel infrastructures and bases. For 12 days managed to get through to Israel and hitting them hard, this created alot of chaos inside israel. No doubt Iran fought bravely, were ready to fight till end.

Iran to do list-
They MUST identify all agents and traitors inside iran and finish them off, their intelligence agency head needs to be fired and new professional people hired. This cannot be repeated.

Iran must ban the use of pagers, western phones, apps, watches to its military personals. Iran must understand that Israelis had the upper hand, they can continue to bomb iran for 1 year and iran couldn't do much, all because Israelis ruled their airspace. Iran needs anti jamming equipment, AD systems, SAM systems, they must make sure Israel will never be able to dominate iranian skies again.

During this war, Iranian strategic partner Russia was quieter than usual and their close partner India refused to condemn Israel or attend SCO meetings on behalf of iran. Iran must remember who supported them from the beginning till the end.

Regarding military weapons. A lot of people are saying Iran must buy j10c, su35s or Jf17s, this is not possible as the west, Israel and Arab GCC will not allow anyone to sell weapons to Iran, It will not work. unless Iran leaves middle east alone, does not challenge mighty Saudis and Israel in the region, this then may reduce alot of pressure on foreign suppliers and just maybe iran will be able to buy 100 jf17 block 3s to upgrade its airforce. Iran must also invest in SLBM, SLCMs, they need 2nd strike capabilities.

My own opinion - Iran will continue the same path, International sanctions are so serious that no nation will sell cutting edge weaponry to iran, iran will continue giving anti usa and Israel slogans, keeping the domestic audience happy. With officials using this level of non diplomatic language, the situation will be the same. Keep in mind Iran claimed they had 100,000 missiles but only fired 500, they had so many different types of AD systems but majority failed and destroyed, Missiles launchers and bases destroyed

One way out is for Iranian Patriotic/nationalists to rise up, reset relations with everyone, concentrate on Iran, development, military, economy, concentrate on China Russia Pakistan Turkey ASEAN Africa Brazil South African Central Asia Europe, and improve relations with Qatar Egypt. Leave middleeast alone. Then Iran can improve airforce and military, intergrate with China/Pakistan, they will get satellite cover and cutting edge Awaacs, Jamming etc.

No offence to iranian membere but someone has to pay for this incompetence. The regime clearly failed, maybe its better for Ayatollahs to take the back seat and let the military handle military strategies, planning tactics etc

If there people who have been feeding Israel information inside Irans military or elite I think Iran this time around will find many if not all of the current traitors let’s start off with whose still alive and didn’t get bombed or survived from being targeted by the iaf or bombing a from terrorists

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

And now CNN and few other of Israel stooges are claiming Fordow wasn't entirely destroyed.
If you ask me, that's not a good thing. This could give them further reasons in the future to bomb more nuclear or uranium sites across Iran.
Best thing for Iran at this time is admission that everything was destroyed and nothing survived. Nobody wants to see that Yahoo bring another cherry bomb like chart to the UN explaining how close Iran is to making "the bomb."

No. Lay low for now. Makes for great talking points among the MSM. They hate Trump and would love to parrot he failed.

If Iran decides to confirm Fordow was not damaged, huge win for them. If Iran confirms the damage was significant, they'll go off on some other tangent. But for now, let them guess.

 

[vmro]

Trump administration postpones classified briefings for lawmakers on Iran

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www.timesofisrael.com

Looking like they need to get their stories straight over the massive “success” of bombing Iran I’m guessing not so much of success now worries if the Iranians will go full nuclear those Israelis……when it looks like they won they might have actually lost

Number of killed Iranians ar bigger, and we know that is some fetish of zionists and majority western media also...some tactical genius of mossad in the opening phase and that is that...nothing even close to win, Iran was step away from total victory, but ok,,,

it was clear that Iran is not Hezbollah, and roots are so deeper, much more from busting bombs are needed, wisely americans want to have nothing with Iran, which means disaster for Bibi`s plan, doomed from the start....

This operation was pinnacle of entire state of israel capacity, but for heavyweight like Iran they are just small entity...with full furious assault, Iran could literally wipe out entity just because gabarite advantages and final decisive victory...

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Extreme fringe groups are what they are: Fringe groups! They are like the gangs in Inner City. Dangerous, damaging but still confined. But when conflate them to be larger society, or even a country, then comes the room for obfuscations and misleading. Not accusing YOU of that.

The NSDAP was once such a fringe group.

 

[Hayabusa]

This is a fantastic read and reaffirms what I have been saying just now.

It's just not possible to hit that deep. Even if its 12 MOPs. Granite is much denser than than reinforced concrete and would most likely be able to withstand that impact.

If i was leading the Iranian military, I will just shut the hell up and let the whole world believe in US operation.

I have been saying this when US targeted Fordow. It was just too deep to destroy. Only way it can be destroyed is internal sabotage.

 

[Kyussis]

Please tell me that is fake.

Why would you think its fake? You don't know these people and their ideology?

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

I have been saying this when US targeted Fordow. It was just too deep to destroy. Only way it can be destroyed is internal sabotage.

Depending upon the initial penetration depth and explosion followed by the second bomb's penetration and explosion depth, there is the potential the vibrations alone were sufficient to damage the centrifuges.

 

[Davey Crockett]

Extreme fringe groups have done a lot of damage over the course of history.

Brutally accurate comments are not always fair.

Your every day Christard warming pews every Sunday, and on Bible Tune Up Day, Wednesday, have done more damage than all fringe groups combined.